@metal-brain saidWhat a coincidence, NZ has an egg shortage, a very obvious egg shortage, as obvious as empty shelves at the supermarket, but for a different reason. They've changed the rules for farming, millions of dollars invested in egg laying facilities has gone up in smoke, the price of eggs is going up because of more expensive regulated farming methods.
How are chickens going to develop resistance to avian flu if the whole flock is killed?
https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/mass-chicken-culling-is-an-attack-on-the-food-supply
Oh well. I have chickens so I don't buy eggs, just chicken feed. Is that next?
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@wajoma saidThat is odd. Different reasons for the same result. Here in the USA if one chicken out of the flock tests positive for avian flu they kill them all. The article claims they are using the flawed PCR tests too. If they were my chickens I would demand to know the cycle threshold level and have the chicken tested multiple times. They don't use PCR tests for covid anymore. They were replaced for a reason. Too many false positives.
What a coincidence, NZ has an egg shortage, a very obvious egg shortage, as obvious as empty shelves at the supermarket, but for a different reason. They've changed the rules for farming, millions of dollars invested in egg laying facilities has gone up in smoke, the price of eggs is going up because of more expensive regulated farming methods.
If one child in school gets covid kill all the children. We have to assume they are all infected and stop the spread to other schools. That is about how much sense that makes. These food shortages are deliberate. I heard the UK has an egg shortage as well. Do they have an avian flu problem there or is there a different reason for their shortage?
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I never understood the type of person who keeps buying a product regardless of the price.
Anything that increased in price and I wasn't willing to pay the new price, I just walked away from it.
Prices drop overnight if nobody is buying the product. The public never seems to realize the power of boycotting.
@booger saidDespite the price increase, eggs are still a low cost protein. Compared to other food products, not too much of the price is devoted to the packaging.
I never understood the type of person who keeps buying a product regardless of the price.
Anything that increased in price and I wasn't willing to pay the new price, I just walked away from it.
Prices drop overnight if nobody is buying the product. The public never seems to realize the power of boycotting.
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@phranny saidNot really.
Despite the price increase, eggs are still a low cost protein. Compared to other food products, not too much of the price is devoted to the packaging.
A meal's worth of eggs is three. At about 240 calories that's still less than a quarter of a chicken. At at least $2.25 for the three eggs, that's more than a quarter the the cost of a raw chicken.
Ground meat is about $5/pound in many places, and a pound feeds 3 or 4 people.
Plant-based proteins, like beans and tofu, are much cheaper.
Cheaper than steak, yes. But I don't see eggs as being a cheap protein (anymore) by any standard metric.
@sh76 saidYou pay over $8 per dozen eggs where you live? The Meijer in Gaylord MI had them for $4.39 last Sunday when I was there. I know that is the minimum price they had, but maybe you are picky about the kind of eggs you buy.
Not really.
A meal's worth of eggs is three. At about 240 calories that's still less than a quarter of a chicken. At at least $2.25 for the three eggs, that's more than a quarter the the cost of a raw chicken.
Ground meat is about $5/pound in many places, and a pound feeds 3 or 4 people.
Plant-based proteins, like beans and tofu, are much cheaper.
Cheaper than steak, yes. But I don't see eggs as being a cheap protein (anymore) by any standard metric.
Was that the minimum price at the store you go to?
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@sh76 saidA quick look online has eggs for about $2-8 per dozen. What is your source of information?
Not really.
A meal's worth of eggs is three. At about 240 calories that's still less than a quarter of a chicken. At at least $2.25 for the three eggs, that's more than a quarter the the cost of a raw chicken.
Ground meat is about $5/pound in many places, and a pound feeds 3 or 4 people.
Plant-based proteins, like beans and tofu, are much cheaper.
Cheaper than steak, yes. But I don't see eggs as being a cheap protein (anymore) by any standard metric.
https://www.vons.com/shop/search-results.html?q=eggs
EDIT Sorry for the SoI comment I thought you were MB
@athousandyoung saidAt a local Wegmans 12 "extra large" eggs cost as little as $4.39. So about $1.10 for three. Sh76 must shop at some ritzy hipster market in downtown Tokyo.
A quick look online has eggs for about $2-8 per dozen. What is your source of information?
https://www.vons.com/shop/search-results.html?q=eggs
@sh76 saidYeah but it’s a reasonably cheap protein that is incredibly versatile as an ingredient and as it’s own centre piece.
Not really.
A meal's worth of eggs is three. At about 240 calories that's still less than a quarter of a chicken. At at least $2.25 for the three eggs, that's more than a quarter the the cost of a raw chicken.
Ground meat is about $5/pound in many places, and a pound feeds 3 or 4 people.
Plant-based proteins, like beans and tofu, are much cheaper.
Cheaper than steak, yes. But I don't see eggs as being a cheap protein (anymore) by any standard metric.
If Avian flu isn’t stopped in its tracks wherever it arrives then there may not be any eggs.
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@athousandyoung said$8/dozen was my assumption, which is what I paid on Sunday. Kosher supermarkets are always a little more expensive, I guess.
A quick look online has eggs for about $2-8 per dozen. What is your source of information?
https://www.vons.com/shop/search-results.html?q=eggs
EDIT Sorry for the SoI comment I thought you were MB
Anyway, even assuming 50 cents/egg, $1.50 for the grocery protein part of a single meal isn't exactly cheap.
Edit: Come to think of it, the $8 might have been for 18 eggs, not a dozen. Whatever. They're double or triple what they were a year ago at this time.
@kevcvs57 saidSome birds have died from the disease itself, but the vast majority are being culled through flock "depopulation," to try to stop the virus from spreading. That includes millions of chickens and turkeys in barns and backyards that had been raised to provide eggs or meat.
Yeah but it’s a reasonably cheap protein that is incredibly versatile as an ingredient and as it’s own centre piece.
If Avian flu isn’t stopped in its tracks wherever it arrives then there may not be any eggs.
Killing off chickens just because they "might" be infected prevents chickens from evolving immunity to avian flu. Avian flu is already being carried by wild birds so containing it is impossible. Wild ducks can be infected without any signs of illness.
Give the chickens a fighting chance to survive avian flu. Quarantine them like you would people. Even if 90% or more die some will survive and be genetically resistant so the fatality rate drops after each generation. That is how selective breeding works. That is the only practical long term solution. Culling the whole herd prevents that long term solution.