01 Jan 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungThe fact that a US-backed "democracy" is cracking down on nonviolent protesters that aren't even protesting against Egypt in the first place (as I write there has also been one fatality) and there's barely a word said; but a legitimate crackdown on violent counterrevolutionary protesters in Iran that kills less given the timeframe gets exponentially more media attention.
No. What's the ridiculous part?
01 Jan 10
Originally posted by scherzoWell they aren't Egyptians, they're French, and they were blocking a four lane road with their bodies! And they were trying to cross the border into Gaza. They intentionally broke the law with their large political gathering with banners and singing. It's not the same.
The fact that a US-backed "democracy" is cracking down on nonviolent protesters that aren't even protesting against Egypt in the first place (as I write there has also been one fatality) and there's barely a word said; but a legitimate crackdown on violent counterrevolutionary protesters in Iran that kills less given the timeframe gets exponentially more media attention.
Anyway, who died here? You claim more died at this "crackdown" relative to time than did in Iran.
02 Jan 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungWell they aren't Egyptians, they're French, and they were blocking a four lane road with their bodies!
Well they aren't Egyptians, they're French, and they were blocking a four lane road with their bodies! And they were trying to cross the border into Gaza. They intentionally broke the law with their large political gathering with banners and singing. It's not the same.
Anyway, who died here? You claim more died at this "crackdown" relative to time than did in Iran.
Due to Egyptian government policies. People block roads all the time, and these people weren't advocating overthrow of Egypt at all anyway. Are you justifying the Egyptian military response?
And they were trying to cross the border into Gaza.
So trying to cross borders for a peaceful march is a crime now?
They intentionally broke the law with their large political gathering with banners and singing. It's not the same.
So did the pro-Musavi right-wing ideologues.
Anyway, who died here? You claim more died at this "crackdown" relative to time than did in Iran.
Marie Renee.
02 Jan 10
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Originally posted by scherzoPeople block roads all the time and they get arrested for it. So?
[b]Well they aren't Egyptians, they're French, and they were blocking a four lane road with their bodies!
Due to Egyptian government policies. People block roads all the time, and these people weren't advocating overthrow of Egypt at all anyway. Are you justifying the Egyptian military response?
And they were trying to cross the border into Gaz claim more died at this "crackdown" relative to time than did in Iran.
Marie Renee.[/b]
Yes, I am justifying the Egyptian police and military response described in the article you offered. However that article does not mention any Marie Renee or even any real violence from what I can tell. The military only stepped in when they tried to cross the border illegally from what I understand the article to say. Using the Find command with "death", "kill", "murder" or "casualty" (or "Renee" ) gives zero matches.
It sounds like there is more to this than what your article discussed. Do you have any more detailed articles to offer?
Yes, trying to cross borders for any reason without both nations' official approval is a crime, and always has been. That's kind of the point of borders.
Pro-Musavi right-wing ideologues? If you have some point to make please make it explicitly. This seems like a non-sequiter.
Did only the one person die? How? What were the circumstances? They're not in your article.
02 Jan 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungYes, it was. Intelligence failure. I banned the idiot who said that it was Egyptian-police-related from the list serve I got the info from. Sorry about that. 😞
Is this the death in question?
A French woman associated with the March died on Wednesday of a heart attack. She was not present at any of the demonstrations, according to an organizer of the French delegation, Yasser Hassan.
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=251091
02 Jan 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungPeople block roads all the time and they get arrested for it. So?
People block roads all the time and they get arrested for it. So?
Yes, I am justifying the Egyptian police and military response described in the article you offered. However that article does not mention any Marie Renee or even any real violence from what I can tell. The military only stepped in when they tried to cross the border illegally fro ...[text shortened]... the one person die? How? What were the circumstances? They're not in your article.
But beaten?
Yes, I am justifying the Egyptian police and military response described in the article you offered. However that article does not mention any Marie Renee or even any real violence from what I can tell. The military only stepped in when they tried to cross the border illegally from what I understand the article to say. Using the Find command with "death", "kill", "murder" or "casualty" (or "Renee" ) gives zero matches.
See above for the Renee thing. In the meantime:
Yes, trying to cross borders for any reason without both nations' official approval is a crime, and always has been. That's kind of the point of borders.
Gaza is not a nation. The PA is bullcrap. Egypt is a nation, and the marchers are not citizens of Egypt and not under Egyptian martial jurisdiction like the rest of Egypt.
Pro-Musavi right-wing ideologues? If you have some point to make please make it explicitly. This seems like a non-sequiter.
The point is the hypocrasy in dealing with Egypt v. Iran.
Did only the one person die? How? What were the circumstances? They're not in your article.
At this point in Iran, 0 people had been killed by the riot police.