30 Jan 07
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6313953.stm
Should they be givern back or is it a case of tough luck, your city is too dirty !!! Or who cares....its just a bunch of rocks
Personally I think they should be givern back....I don't think it matters who looted the artifacts, they belong to Greece and to use the excuse that Athen's is "too polluted" is poor as they could well be stored inside a building
30 Jan 07
Originally posted by RSMA1234In my opinion all the artefacts and ruins in Athens should be removed from that dirty city, because all those treasures will be lost soon due to the pollution.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6313953.stm
Should they be givern back or is it a case of tough luck, your city is too dirty !!! Or who cares....its just a bunch of rocks
Personally I think they should be givern back....I don't think it matters who looted the artifacts, they belong to Greece and to use the excuse that Athen's is "too polluted" is poor as they could well be stored inside a building
Preserving these treasures for mankind should come before Greek national pride.
30 Jan 07
Originally posted by knightwestan apologist for thievery and racism for sure
In my opinion all the artefacts and ruins in Athens should be removed from that dirty city, because all those treasures will be lost soon due to the pollution.
Preserving these treasures for mankind should come before Greek national pride.
31 Jan 07
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Originally posted by RSMA1234i reckon they've lost their marbles😀
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6313953.stm
Should they be givern back or is it a case of tough luck, your city is too dirty !!! Or who cares....its just a bunch of rocks
Personally I think they should be givern back....I don't think it matters who looted the artifacts, they belong to Greece and to use the excuse that Athen's is "too polluted" is poor as they could well be stored inside a building
what about "finders keepers"?
31 Jan 07
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Originally posted by knightwestI don't think your logic holds true, Athens may be polluted (I have never been), but if they stored the artefacts inside a building with air conditioning etc, then I don't think that pollution would be a factor.
In my opinion all the artefacts and ruins in Athens should be removed from that dirty city, because all those treasures will be lost soon due to the pollution.
Preserving these treasures for mankind should come before Greek national pride.
Also, I think you are over simpltying things by stating that "Greek national pride" should be ignored for the sake off mankind, the bottom line is that they where looted and the Greece Goverment owns the artefacts, they are well within their rights as "the rightful owner" of them to have them back.
By "preserving these treasures for mankind", your implying that the goverment is "incapable" of looking after them.....which quite frankly is nonsense and may be the reason why you where called a "an apologist for thievery and racism for sure" as above.
31 Jan 07
In any case, surely these artefacts are enjoyed at their best in their original location.
If there are doubts about whether the Greek authorities can properly look after them, perhaps the international community should assist - it is in everyone's interests.
The answer certainly isn't further looting.
Glasgow, for example, recently returned some preserved heads (can't remember the proper name) to the Maori, and a ghost shirt to some Americans a few years ago. They are, after all, the rightful owners.
31 Jan 07
Originally posted by Redmike1 rec for that, well said
In any case, surely these artefacts are enjoyed at their best in their original location.
If there are doubts about whether the Greek authorities can properly look after them, perhaps the international community should assist - it is in everyone's interests.
The answer certainly isn't further looting.
Glasgow, for example, recently returned some pre ...[text shortened]... nd a ghost shirt to some Americans a few years ago. They are, after all, the rightful owners.
31 Jan 07
Originally posted by RedmikeGreece is perfectly capable of dealing with their own artefacts.
In any case, surely these artefacts are enjoyed at their best in their original location.
If there are doubts about whether the Greek authorities can properly look after them, perhaps the international community should assist - it is in everyone's interests.
The answer certainly isn't further looting.
Glasgow, for example, recently returned some pre ...[text shortened]... nd a ghost shirt to some Americans a few years ago. They are, after all, the rightful owners.
Someone should give the Greeks their marbles back.
31 Jan 07
I really don't have a clue.
The whole pollution thing is obviously rubbish. Like Mike said, the international community should lend a hand if it's that important.
However, on the matter of finders-keepers, I don't know.
Is everything supposed to be returned to the original place of finding?
31 Jan 07
Originally posted by shavixmirI don't think everything has to be returned.
I really don't have a clue.
The whole pollution thing is obviously rubbish. Like Mike said, the international community should lend a hand if it's that important.
However, on the matter of finders-keepers, I don't know.
Is everything supposed to be returned to the original place of finding?
But, if it is important enough for the people in the original place to ask, that's fair enough.
I remember seeing the American people on TV when we returned to ghost shirt. It was clearly important to them, and it meant a great deal to them to get it back. For us, it was just an exhibit in a museum.
31 Jan 07
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterNot sure if that holds true in the UK.....for example, if someone buys a stolen car and the police realise this (when they go to register it for example)...the new owner must return the car back to the orginal owner.
Possession is nine/tenths of the law, as the saying goes.
They lose any money they have paid also.
I think the prinicple applied is that it is stolen goods should be returned to the "rightful owner" regardless.
31 Jan 07
Originally posted by RSMA1234I'm just teasing -- obviously, this is a complicated issue and if the British museum returns the statuary, then it sets the precedent for other museums to have to do the same.
Not sure if that holds true in the UK.....for example, if someone buys a stolen car and the police realise this (when they go to register it for example)...the new owner must return the car back to the orginal owner.
They lose any money they have paid also.
I think the prinicple applied is that it is stolen goods should be returned to the "rightful owner" regardless.