@kevcvs57 saidKev, you took it from farm bankruptcy to whatever edge you could get to troll.
Ahh I see the tactic now, post tangential nonsensical angry righteous man sentences in the hope that it passes for a reply. If it doesn’t wash, well at least you got to vent. 👍
Bye.
@wolfgang59 saidOnce again, debasing and trolling.
When you say something idiotic and get challenged .. that is NOT trolling.
Calling it trolling is evasion, in fact it's capitulation.
You may as well put up your hands and say "Yep, you caught me being dumb again."
@earl-of-trumps saidYou insist on using a ridiculous example like North Korea but you think talking about Norway is trolling? Please.
My sense-o-meter detects a loaded question.
pass
@athousandyoung saidYa, you pull Norway out of left field and ask me a question about it?
You insist on using a ridiculous example like North Korea but you think talking about Norway is trolling? Please.
Who are you kidding.
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@earl-of-trumps saidAre right wingers really as ignorant as you seem to be?
Who needs the relief more, the rich or the poor?
are you shifting me??? get real
In a decently run liberal democracy, government fiscal policy should reduce income and wealth inequality. Of course, the US isn't one of those, but still the income tax is just about the only tax that imposes a heavier burden on those with higher incomes i.e. is "progressive"; almost all other taxes are at best proportional and usually regressive. There's a handy dandy chart here: https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/how-should-progressivity-be-measured
I know you guys are gullible, but really believing that rich people want to get rid of the income tax to help the poor should be a one-way ticket to a mental health professional's office.
@no1marauder saidI don't need your bleeping chart, and I know your designs.
Are right wingers really as ignorant as you seem to be?
In a decently run liberal democracy, government fiscal policy should reduce income and wealth inequality. Of course, the US isn't one of those, but still the income tax is just about the only tax that imposes a heavier burden on those with higher incomes i.e. is "progressive"; almost all other taxes are at best pr ...[text shortened]... the income tax to help the poor should be a one-way ticket to a mental health professional's office.
I'm a libertarian, I believe in freedom. Taxing the poor SUCKS and you know it.
"progressive". Ya, progress right into the stone age
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@earl-of-trumps saidYou're not a "libertarian"; you don't even oppose criminal drug laws nor support a women's right to reproductive freedom. Those position are incompatible with even the bastardized, laissez faire type of "libertarianism" created in the US.
I don't need your bleeping chart, and I know your designs.
I'm a libertarian, I believe in freedom. Taxing the poor SUCKS and you know it.
"progressive". Ya, progress right into the stone age
I'm not going to bother to explain to you what the difference is between a "progressive", a "proportional" and a "regressive" tax is; if you don't really know and have no intention of finding out, then further discussion of these matters with someone as aggressively ignorant as yourself is useless.
@earl-of-trumps saidCuba? You mean the tiny nation that had a better healthcare system than the US and was put under severe trade boycotts by the US for decades?
It is far better to fail with "too much" than to live the communist economic
model where you never have enough.
Exhibit A and B, Cuba, North Korea. Game, set, match.
North Korea? You mean the nation with a dictator, where the people have no say over production and distribution?
How’s that communist?
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@no1marauder
You're not a "libertarian"; you don't even oppose criminal drug laws nor support a women's right to reproductive freedom.
This is about as ignorant a statement as I have seen in along while.
I'll go toe to toe with any Libertarian about enforcing drug laws because drug
abuse - as is, end up $$costing everyone, and that too, is a libertarian principle,
don't charge ME for your drug induced problems.
Totally ignorant.
As far as "reproductive rights" is concerned,... did you pull that out of your ass?
I have never expressed my beliefs in that matter to you or anyone else.
Again, totally ignorant.
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Cuba? You mean the tiny nation that had a better healthcare system than the US and was put under severe trade boycotts by the US for decades?
Yes, CUBA. I don't stutter. Their agricultural production, in general, fell greatly
when Fidel took over and they struggle today. Yes.
North Korea? You mean the nation with a dictator, where the people have no say over production and distribution?
How’s that communist?
Are you serious or delirious?
For decades North Korea has been one of the world's most secretive societies. It is one of the few countries still under nominally communist rule. North Korea's nuclear ambitions have exacerbated its rigidly maintained isolation from the rest of the world. - word atlas.
Shav, you couldn't check this out before opening your mouth with rebuttal?
It's a ONE party country, Shav, the COMMUNIST party.
@earl-of-trumps saidYou don't go "toe to toe" with anyone who argues with you.
I'll go toe to toe with any Libertarian
Totally ignorant.
As far as "reproductive rights" is concerned,... did you pull that out of your ass?
I have never expressed my beliefs in that matter to you or anyone else.
Again, totally ignorant.
You capitualte with nonsense about "trolling".
And "ignorant" ... LOL that is best left as your epithet.
@earl-of-trumps saidFrom your own source (whatever that is) nominally communist
For decades North Korea has been one of the world's most secretive societies. It is one of the few countries still under nominally communist rule.
The ruling party could be called the Republican Party it is irrelevant.
The name of the party does not dictate its philosophy.
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@earl-of-trumps saidThere isn't anyone who understands libertarian principles who supports criminal drug laws. Here's what the right wing, lassiez faire US Libertarian Party says about the matter:
@no1marauder
You're not a "libertarian"; you don't even oppose criminal drug laws nor support a women's right to reproductive freedom.
This is about as ignorant a statement as I have seen in along while.
I'll go toe to toe with any Libertarian about enforcing drug laws because drug
abuse - as is, end up $$costing everyone, and that too, is a libertarian ...[text shortened]...
I have never expressed my beliefs in that matter to you or anyone else.
Again, totally ignorant.
"Laws should be limited in their application to violations of the rights of others through force or fraud, or to deliberate actions that place others involuntarily at significant risk of harm. Therefore, we favor the repeal of all laws creating “crimes” without victims, such as gambling, the use of drugs for medicinal or recreational purposes, and consensual transactions involving sexual services."
https://www.lp.org/platform/
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@no1marauder saidLet me spell it out to you AGAIN, No1...
There isn't anyone who understands libertarian principles who supports criminal drug laws. Here's what the right wing, lassiez faire US Libertarian Party says about the matter:
"Laws should be limited in their application to violations of the rights of others through force or fraud, or to deliberate actions that place others involuntarily at significant risk of harm. ...[text shortened]... al purposes, and consensual transactions involving sexual services."
https://www.lp.org/platform/
I know what the plank is in the Libertarian party platform. That does not mean
I have to agree with it. And I can use Libertarian principles to prove it wrongful.
Not all democrats or republicans can agree on all planks in their respective
party's platforms. So why is it that I, a Libertarian, *must* agree with the
majority of Libertarians? I don't have to, and I *don't*.
"crimes without victims". I agree! what I and the libertarians don't agree on is
are there any victims to Jim doing drugs? I say yes, they say no.
Meanwhile, in America, drug rehabs are going up like McDonalds restaurants,
and many people each year end up on SS disability or even into nursing homes,
and the American taxpayer gets the BILL! That's not making me a victim?
And there are the every day costs, too, like "free needle exchange" programs.
It's not FREE. The taxpayer pays for them. Millions of them. Many of these
druggies can't feed themselves and get food stamps. Again, who pays for that?
The bottom line to this sub thread of "assail EoT", is, I am a Libertarian, PERIOD.
Don't dictate to me who I am and what I am, Commie boy. It's dictators like you
and your ilk that I fight tooth and nail.