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As the Trump administration plans to dramatically expand ($60 billion increase this year alone) the direct payments made from the federal government to millionaire farmers, and at the same time take money away from poor people struggling to pay for grown food, it is important to keep in mind that 10,000 of those farms have received farm subsidies every single year for 40 years in a row. The Frisch Brothers in Texas raked in nearly $20 million in direct cash payments since 1985. Farmers never learned how to subsist, compete, struggle, and come up with new business solutions because they knew ol Uncle Sam would rescue them eventually.

Does that remind you of conservatives complaining about individuals on SNAP benefits?

Y'all know its a pet peeve of mine. Governments must spend less money. A new $60 billion handout program? MAGA ain't it.

https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2025/05/almost-10000-farmers-have-received-subsidies-40-straight-years

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@wildgrass said
As the Trump administration plans to dramatically expand ($60 billion increase this year alone) the direct payments made from the federal government to millionaire farmers, and at the same time take money away from poor people struggling to pay for grown food, it is important to keep in mind that 10,000 of those farms have received farm subsidies every single year for 40 ye ...[text shortened]... ww.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2025/05/almost-10000-farmers-have-received-subsidies-40-straight-years
Also important to point out that farmers pay waaaaaaaay lower taxes than normal property owners. Especially if you live in a farm-heavy state, whenever you pay a property tax bill, that money is used to build roads in rural areas no one but farmers use where people pay basically zero on their property tax.

This system has been massively abused, for example you can own a million acre ranch in Texas, call it a "farm" because a few chickens live there seasonally, and it'll dramatically decrease your tax payment. Even though you still need roads and schools, police and medical, you don't need to pay for it. Good deal.


@wildgrass said
Also important to point out that farmers pay waaaaaaaay lower taxes than normal property owners. Especially if you live in a farm-heavy state, whenever you pay a property tax bill, that money is used to build roads in rural areas no one but farmers use where people pay basically zero on their property tax.

This system has been massively abused, for example you can own a ...[text shortened]... hough you still need roads and schools, police and medical, you don't need to pay for it. Good deal.
Half of all SNAP recipients are no longer receiving the benefit a year later.

But the farmers? That there is goobermint cheese for life.


@wildgrass said
As the Trump administration plans to dramatically expand ($60 billion increase this year alone) the direct payments made from the federal government to millionaire farmers, and at the same time take money away from poor people struggling to pay for grown food, it is important to keep in mind that 10,000 of those farms have received farm subsidies every single year for 40 ye ...[text shortened]... ww.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2025/05/almost-10000-farmers-have-received-subsidies-40-straight-years
damned democrats ehh?

https://www.agriculture.com/democrats-in-congress-propose-usd10-billion-in-economic-aid-to-farmers-8760280

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
damned democrats ehh?

https://www.agriculture.com/democrats-in-congress-propose-usd10-billion-in-economic-aid-to-farmers-8760280
I''m beginning to question whether or not you can read.

Your article says that Dems want to pay for it by offsetting the aid with cuts in other areas of the farm bill. Of course the Republicans object because they want all their goodies with no plans to pay for anything. And the article ALSO says that Republicans' proposal was to spend EVEN MORE MONEY on farmers but refused to accept the offsets.

In summary, both parties want to subsidize farmers. The GOP wants to give them more money and doesn't want the government to have to pay for the handouts until their grandkids are voting age.

Another example of disgustingly irresponsible politics from Republicans. Thanks for sharing.


@wildgrass said
I''m beginning to question whether or not you can read.

Your article says that Dems want to pay for it by offsetting the aid with cuts in other areas of the farm bill. Of course the Republicans object because they want all their goodies with no plans to pay for anything. And the article ALSO says that Republicans' proposal was to spend EVEN MORE MONEY on farmers but refu ...[text shortened]... age.

Another example of disgustingly irresponsible politics from Republicans. Thanks for sharing.
What you say…

“Your article says that Dems want to pay for it by offsetting the aid with cuts in other areas of the farm bill.”


What the article says…

The expense would be offset by shifting billions of dollars of climate funding into USDA conservation programs.

Why are you so dishonest?


@Mott-The-Hoople said
What you say…

“Your article says that Dems want to pay for it by offsetting the aid with cuts in other areas of the farm bill.”


What the article says…

The expense would be offset by shifting billions of dollars of climate funding into USDA conservation programs.

Why are you so dishonest?
First up, why are YOU so dishonest? Republicans wanted MORE handouts for farmers and they refused to pay for them, but you still blame the Dems for this travesty of a government y'all built?

Republicans have been running Congress for 10of the past 15 years, but can't stop hemming and hawing about how the Dems screw stuff up. You're in charge, man. Grow a pair.


@wildgrass said
First up, why are YOU so dishonest? Republicans wanted MORE handouts for farmers and they refused to pay for them, but you still blame the Dems for this travesty of a government y'all built?

Republicans have been running Congress for 10of the past 15 years, but can't stop hemming and hawing about how the Dems screw stuff up. You're in charge, man. Grow a pair.
Don't waste your time with mott the moron.


@wildgrass said
First up, why are YOU so dishonest? Republicans wanted MORE handouts for farmers and they refused to pay for them, but you still blame the Dems for this travesty of a government y'all built?

Republicans have been running Congress for 10of the past 15 years, but can't stop hemming and hawing about how the Dems screw stuff up. You're in charge, man. Grow a pair.
YOU are the one caught lying 😉


@YEAH-BOY said
Don't waste your time with mott the moron.
😂


@wildgrass said
As the Trump administration plans to dramatically expand ($60 billion increase this year alone) the direct payments made from the federal government to millionaire farmers, and at the same time take money away from poor people struggling to pay for grown food, it is important to keep in mind that 10,000 of those farms have received farm subsidies every single year for 40 ye ...[text shortened]... ww.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2025/05/almost-10000-farmers-have-received-subsidies-40-straight-years
FIRST,, you complain about farmers going out of business for high prcies because of Trump... THEN, you complain about Trump helping Farmers with subsidies to bail them out. Which do you want?

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@wildgrass

It's not as easy as you portray, wild. Here's AI

The percentage of farmers losing money varies, but recent data indicates that a significant portion is struggling, with some reports suggesting
over half of U.S. farms are not profitable and a more recent survey finding nearly half of U.S. corn farmers believe they are on the brink of a crisis.
A 2018 USDA study found that over half of U.S. farm households had losses from their farm business in 2015,
and a 2025 poll of farmers showed nearly 40% may lose money in 2024


@Earl-of-Trumps said
@wildgrass

It's not as easy as you portray, wild. Here's AI

The percentage of farmers losing money varies, but recent data indicates that a significant portion is struggling, with some reports suggesting
over half of U.S. farms are not profitable and a more recent survey finding nearly half of U.S. corn farmers believe they are on the brink of a crisis.
A 2 ...[text shortened]... eir farm business in 2015,
and a 2025 poll of farmers showed nearly 40% may lose money in 2024
No that fits precisely with what I wrote. Actually, I added more nuance to your "recent" story, in the sense that farmers who are struggling have been struggling continuously for 40 years and have needed government support every single year. It's not a recent problem, the farm industry itself is sucking the resources out of government to pad their retirement accounts.

It's welfare for businesses who can't turn a profit. Yes, you could argue that government practices are causing it, but government knew they were going to cause this and chose to make those decisions anyways. That's fine, but using tax dollars to give cash to farmers so their businesses look profitable is not fine.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
FIRST,, you complain about farmers going out of business for high prcies because of Trump... THEN, you complain about Trump helping Farmers with subsidies to bail them out. Which do you want?
I never made your first argument. Trump's administration knew full well what their policy changes would do to farmers. They chose to do them anyways. Then, in order to keep the farmers happily voting for them, they took your tax dollars and gave it to the farmers as tribute.

What do I want? None of it. Farmers are great, it's a wonderful industry that's been trashed by government policies and subsidies for growing specific crops. They can't stay afloat because they're not required to swim.

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@wildgrass said
I never made your first argument. Trump's administration knew full well what their policy changes would do to farmers. They chose to do them anyways. Then, in order to keep the farmers happily voting for them, they took your tax dollars and gave it to the farmers as tribute.

What do I want? None of it. Farmers are great, it's a wonderful industry that's been trashed by g ...[text shortened]... d subsidies for growing specific crops. They can't stay afloat because they're not required to swim.
So you are against the govt helping the one that feeds you but are for govt helping those that get the food for free?

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