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@the-grifter saidSo are you saying, then, that the riots in the US during the Summer of 2020 following the murder of George Floyd at the hands of the police were okay, and understandable, and even excusable?
this is the reason for the riots.
three English children knifed to death by someone not from England.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fx-xlfvqkI
Because everyone knows what the "reason" for the UK riots was, and your video link imbues your post with a certain right-wing wink and nod that would give any KKK goon a giddy little boner under the white sheet.
@the-grifter removed their quoted postThat's what I thought.
Thanks for the confirmation of where you stand: in a puddle of fascist piss.
@Soothfast saidThanks for your response. Let me do a bit more research before I reply. For now, I am doubtful that the German interior ministry classifies all those who are illegal immigrants, as criminals in that report. They must have committed some other criminal act.
From the article at https://www.dw.com/en/germany-violent-crime-reaches-15-year-high-report/a-68758122:
[quote]The number of suspects arrested rose by 7.3% to 2.246 million and 41.3% of them did not have a German passport.
Among the people without German nationality who were charged, 402,514 were described as refugees, asylum seekers and those who entered the co ...[text shortened]... y irreversible demographic trends. Same for Japan, and same for a lot of other developed countries.
@Rajk999 saidThe statistics cited at the link I provided are for arrests. An arrest means to be detained by authorities, which can occur not only if one commits a crime, but also for suspicion of having committed a crime. Authorized entry and stay are crimes that leave one subject to arrest.
Thanks for your response. Let me do a bit more research before I reply. For now, I am doubtful that the German interior ministry classifies all those who are illegal immigrants, as criminals in that report. They must have committed some other criminal act.
@Soothfast saidFor this discussion, we are only interested in violent crimes. Data that includes immigration violations are irrelevant. So what information is available out there on that. Here is one and it appears that in the area or violent crimes immigrants outnumber nationals by a wide margin.
The statistics cited at the link I provided are for arrests. An arrest means to be detained by authorities, which can occur not only if one commits a crime, but also for suspicion of having committed a crime. Authorized entry and stay are crimes that leave one subject to arrest.
The numbers of German crime suspects rose by 4.6% and the numbers of non-German crime suspects went up by 22.6%. Within this "non-German" category, the police say that 310,062 were migrants. They also add that the numbers of migrant crime suspects rose by 35% compared to the previous year. This includes violations of immigration law, that obviously can't be committed by Germans. If we don't count those violations, the number of migrant crime suspects rose by 11.9%
https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/51931/germany-crime-statistics-and-migration
In Denmark and Sweden, immigrants are twice as likely to commit violent crime as the native populations. The pattern becomes even starker with certain types of crime: in Sweden, from 2013-17, immigrants were three times more likely likely to be registered as a suspect for assault than the native population – which grows to four times for robbery, and five times for rape.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/16/europes-migrant-crime-wave-is-coming-to-britain/
I also posted this earlier:
@Rajk999 saidGiven the incredibly low crime rates associated with, for instance, native Swedes living in Sweden, I'm not sure how hyperventilatory one should get about immigrants who are, say, "three times more likely to be registered as a suspect for assault than the native population." That might just make them about half as violent as the average American, for all I know. These numbers lack that kind of context.
For this discussion, we are only interested in violent crimes. Data that includes immigration violations are irrelevant. So what information is available out there on that. Here is one and it appears that in the area or violent crimes immigrants outnumber nationals by a wide margin.
[i]The numbers of German crime suspects rose by 4.6% and the numbers of non-German crime ...[text shortened]... o.uk/news/2024/05/16/europes-migrant-crime-wave-is-coming-to-britain/
I also posted this earlier:
In the face of adversity when integrating new people into a society, you right-wing types really give up easily, and start falling all over your fainting couches (as soon as JD Vance is done with them, anyway). Yes, immigrants can be difficult to assimilate. They're out of their element, unfamiliar with the terrain, culture, laws, language, and traditions. They will get into trouble, maybe. But whatever flames you're trying to fan here, I can't see any alternatives.
Europe isn't making babies, so it needs to take in immigrants. It is doing so. It is a win-win proposition, and it is precisely the same dynamic that the US benefited immensely from in, especially, the first 150 years of its existence. And yeah, throughout those 150 years, and on into modern times, every kind of immigrant from every kind of place has been subjected to the hatred and violence of reactionary fanatics who saw them as a sign of the end of civilization. Same stale old song. You never get tired of it?
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@Rajk999 saidHere is some data on the homicide rate of different countries:
For this discussion, we are only interested in violent crimes. Data that includes immigration violations are irrelevant. So what information is available out there on that. Here is one and it appears that in the area or violent crimes immigrants outnumber nationals by a wide margin.
[i]The numbers of German crime suspects rose by 4.6% and the numbers of non-German crime ...[text shortened]... o.uk/news/2024/05/16/europes-migrant-crime-wave-is-coming-to-britain/
I also posted this earlier:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
I mentioned Sweden in my last post, so I'll mention that the intentional homicide rate of that country is just 1.1 per 100,000. As for the US, the rate is 6.383. So, the average American is almost 6 times more violent than the average Swede, measured by cold-blooded murders. This means that yes, the average American is about twice as violent as the average immigrant in Sweden, if we take homicides to be a kind of proxy index for all violent crimes. The off-the-cuff estimate I made in my previous post happens, amazingly, to be nearly exactly right.
So, all this hoopla about immigrant violence compared to native rates of violence is not so much a commentary on the violence of immigrants, but rather the lack of violence of natives in many European Union nations. And in the final analysis, the logical conclusion is that Sweden should seal the border to Americans who, after all, are rampaging volcanoes of constant violence.