1. Subscribersonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    slatington, pa, usa
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    07 Aug '18 09:45
    Originally posted by @metal-brain
    He just might be the president of the NRA some day. Look at Ollie North.
    Rick Gates HAS testified and he gets a get out of jail free card, the problem with Manafort is suppose he goes through this trial and gets 300 years in prison, he is probably hoping for a pardon from Trump. Suppose that is true and he gets that presidential get of of jail free card, Trump can only pardon those convicted of federal crimes.
    He has no jurisdiction over state crimes and this is only round one for Manafort, so he can walk into the state trial a free man and get convicted there, he does whatever the state crimes state for jail time and Trump is helpless to intervene.
    The bottom line there is Manny will never be ANYTHING again. The only question left is how much money he hid away for his wife in case he bites the dust legally speaking.
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    08 Aug '18 00:58
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    Rick Gates HAS testified and he gets a get out of jail free card, the problem with Manafort is suppose he goes through this trial and gets 300 years in prison, he is probably hoping for a pardon from Trump. Suppose that is true and he gets that presidential get of of jail free card, Trump can only pardon those convicted of federal crimes.
    He has no jurisd ...[text shortened]... tion left is how much money he hid away for his wife in case he bites the dust legally speaking.
    It depends on the state. New York has a double jeopardy law that prevents those who are tried federally to be tried for the same crime in that state. There are bank fraud charges in VA that could be a problem for Manafort if he is convicted there, but that is an "if".
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/schneiderman-double-jeopardy/558389/

    Manafort had a good day in court today. The judge even thought the prosecuting attorney was crying.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-07/manafort-judge-to-prosecutor-there-s-tears-in-your-eyes

    Sorry to rain on your parade. It isn't going well for the prosecutor.
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