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@jj-adams said
Maybe stuff like this?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-missouri-students-were-234742875.html
Yeah that is stupid. Are you saying that this assignment was in one of the books Florida is objecting to? I don’t see any “race essentialism” - just bad taste.


@jj-adams said
Maybe stuff like this?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-missouri-students-were-234742875.html
This assignment appears to be a combined biography, reading comprehension and math assignment that explicitly mentions sexual abuse. In poor taste but not a bad assignment in principle. Nothing racial about it.


@sonhouse said
@quackquack
You really think an assswipe like Desantis is even slightly interested in forum, teaching or any of that? His political ambitions run over ANY other issue.
He would admit to friends just how stupid this is but he is pandering to some kind of stupid base so they mix well together. Like they say, great minds stink alike. Even not so great minds.
I think you are making this political. I taught math and in my professional opinion hot button issues (on either side) distracts from the task on hand. Simply put discussion about geometry proofs, trigonometry, polygons, quadratic equations do not involve Social issues and as such I would keep those irrelevant issues out of text books.
If some people find material objectionable and everyone finds it irrelevant why do you demand its inclusion?


@athousandyoung said
The problem is that they have shown no evidence of their accusations about “indoctrinating race essentialism”. This is slander.
Does anyone remember when Rev. Jerry Falwell,
accused the the kiddie show, ''TELETUBBIES,'' of being
a sinister plot to enlist children into, ''THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA?''


@jimm619 said
Does anyone remember when Rev. Jerry Falwell,
accused the the kiddie show, ''TELETUBBIES,'' of being
a sinister plot to enlist children into, ''THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA?''
Don’t forget Pokémon and Dungeons and Dragons are Satanic


@mott-the-hoople said
Leave our children alone...PERVERT!
You don't have children 😛


@jimm619 said
Does anyone remember when Rev. Jerry Falwell,
accused the the kiddie show, ''TELETUBBIES,'' of being
a sinister plot to enlist children into, ''THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA?''
There was another extremely popular Evangelical, named Ted Haggard, who could not stop spouting about the "evils of homosexuality" and calling it a sin to a congregation of 14,000.

Then he was caught with a gay prostitute and some methamphetamine. And now.. he welcomes all into his church and denies that he ever thought the Bible forbids homosexuality.

These guys are all con men.


@jj-adams said
Maybe stuff like this?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-missouri-students-were-234742875.html
THIS REFERS TO MISSOURI NOT FLORIDA


@jimm619 said
THIS REFERS TO MISSOURI NOT FLORIDA
LOL they can't even find a good example of a maths book with CRT in it... because it doesn't exist.

In Florida, it looks like the objectionable material had nothing to do with CRT but that didn't stop the governor from proclaiming victory over the libs for something that doesn't exist.

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@vivify said
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/18/1093277449/florida-mathematics-textbooks

Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

The Florida education department has rejected 54 mathematics textbooks for its K-12 curriculum, citing reasons spanning the inclusion of critical race theory to Common Core learning concepts.

The rejected b ...[text shortened]... ted topics or unsolicited strategies, including [critical race theory]," the statement said.
Books banned through history....kinda' fun.
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/10-controversial-classics-for-banned-books-week

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@athousandyoung said
Don’t forget Pokémon and Dungeons and Dragons are Satanic
Pokémon 😱
They might be right about Dungeons and Dragons given that you end up in a dark room with socially awkward misfits casting spells.

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@wildgrass said
LOL they can't even find a good example of a maths book with CRT in it... because it doesn't exist.

In Florida, it looks like the objectionable material had nothing to do with CRT but that didn't stop the governor from proclaiming victory over the libs for something that doesn't exist.
When did a cynical twot courting the Trump base let reality get in their way.

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Ok, so we have the original source, The Florida Department of Education:

https://www.fldoe.org/newsroom/latest-news/florida-rejects-publishers-attempts-to-indoctrinate-students.stml
(Someone quoted that source but didn't give it)


Overall, Florida is initially not including 54 of the 132 (41 percent) submitted textbooks on the state’s adopted list. The full breakdown is below:

78 of 132 total submitted textbooks are being included on the state’s adopted list.
28 (21 percent) are not included on the adopted list because they incorporate prohibited topics or unsolicited strategies, including CRT.
12 (9 percent) are not included on the adopted list because they do not properly align to B.E.S.T. Standards.
14 (11 percent) are not included on the adopted list because they do not properly align to B.E.S.T. Standards and incorporate prohibited topics or unsolicited strategies, including CRT.
Grades K-5: 71 percent of materials were rejected.
Grades 6-8: 20 percent of materials were rejected.
Grades 9-12: 35 percent of materials were rejected.


For the 54 book, that were not accepted 26 failed B.E.S.T standards (for 12 of them this is the only reason). Probably nobody is challenging that decision.
And probably all posters here agree that the state should guard the standards.

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So we come to the question what exactly was the problem. The Florida Department of Education has at least one answer:

https://www.fldoe.org/academics/standards/instructional-materials/

* Racial Bias has been taken as example for addition and subtraction of polynomials.
We can discuss if this is "CRT", if tis is a badly chosen example or a well chosebn one...

* third figure: Besides other objectives (which probably are not challenged by anyone here) an "SEL" (social emotional learning) objective is given. So this is against the rules.
Three questions from me:
Is that a good rule? (That ios a point of debate)
Does the SLE learning objective in any way compete with the math objectives?
If that objective wouldn't have been explicitely labeled would you have realized that it belonged in that class (SLE)?


The post that was quoted here has been removed
This is probably an offence for which you could be convicted for libel.

You are probably open to proove that point so that a judge would agree with you? Then why don't you go to a judeg and remove dangerous people from the streets?