@eladar saidyou are correct. natural immunity is better, according to israeli scientists
So you are the expert. Gotcha.
A study out of Israel states differently, do you have a study that supports your position?
Or are we supposed to assume that your opinion is right because you stated it?
22 Sep 21
@eladar saidIn the Netherlands, if you’ve recovered from Covid, it gets added to the corona app for 6 months.
Should they be viewed as one of those who has been vaxxed?
So when the QR code is read, the reader sees: either vaccinated or tested negative recently or recovered from Covid.
They don’t know which of the three it is.
After 6 months that last “or” doesn’t count for the recovered person anymore (although the person reading it won’t be able to see that).
So, yes, to a certain extent, it does count as being vaccinated.
To what extent having recovered from, say, the Delta variant means you’re protected from new variants is still to be seen. Pretty much the same as with the vaccinations, although they have proven very succesful so far against most variants.
Live and learn. In February / March we’ll know a lot more.
@eladar saidYes. Better than vaxxed for the strain that one was exposed too. If the virus mutates much, then it will not matter if one is vaxxed or exposed. Both will need a new vax or exposure to become immune to the new strain of the virus. New strains of a virus are usually much tougher against medications that were used to attack the virus; much more immune than the strain that they mutated from before. The virus itself mutates and builds up an immunity against the antiviral medications used against it. The virus itself does the same thing that we do to become immune to what harms it. The same thing happens with bacterial infections also; such as Pneumonia etc. There are now strains of Pneumonia that are resistant to most Antibiotics used to kill the bacterial infection etc.
Should they be viewed as one of those who has been vaxxed?
22 Sep 21
@kingdavid403 saidFrom the experts I have seen on tv, they said that viruses do not mutate so much that natural immunity will not work.
Yes. Better than vaxxed for the strain that one was exposed too. If the virus mutates much, then it will not matter if one is vaxxed or exposed. Both will need a new vax or exposure to become immune to the new strain of the virus. New strains of a virus are usually much tougher against medications that were used to attack the virus; much more immune than the strain t ...[text shortened]... trains of Pneumonia that are resistant to most Antibiotics used to kill the bacterial infection etc.
22 Sep 21
@shavixmir saidSo you mean in the Netherlands they recognize 6 months. Nice way to make sure people get vaxxed over and over again.
In the Netherlands, if you’ve recovered from Covid, it gets added to the corona app for 6 months.
So when the QR code is read, the reader sees: either vaccinated or tested negative recently or recovered from Covid.
They don’t know which of the three it is.
After 6 months that last “or” doesn’t count for the recovered person anymore (although the person reading it won ...[text shortened]... uccesful so far against most variants.
Live and learn. In February / March we’ll know a lot more.
23 Sep 21
@eladar saidOr you can get infected over and over again.
So you mean in the Netherlands they recognize 6 months. Nice way to make sure people get vaxxed over and over again.
Antibodies from both previous infection and vaccines will naturally wane over time. I imagine we'll be getting COVID vaccines with the flu shot once a year before too long (probably by Autumn, 2022).
To your question, yes, previously infected should be considered the same as vaxxed and in many countries are. I do think previously infected plus vaxxed is better than either one alone, but mandating that a recently infected person get vaxxed is overkill and unnecessary.
They still have to study the issue further, but my guesstimate is that both vaccinated and previously infected people should be considered partially immune for a year for purposes of travel and access to public venues. What the Netherlands is doing with 6 month immunity makes sense, though is a touch conservative.
I got my second dose on February 24 and fully expect to get another shot next Spring or summer even though the FDA did not approve booster shots for now (for most people).
23 Sep 21
@eladar saidIt's not an either-or. Previous illness is not going to make you immune forever. No chance. But it will likely give your body a permanent headstart in making antibodies on demand, meaning that you'll be sick for 3 days instead of 7, etc.
From the experts I have seen on tv, they said that viruses do not mutate so much that natural immunity will not work.
Of course, as one gets older or less healthy, even a partially-neutered flu-like virus becomes more dangerous.