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  1. Subscriberno1marauder
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    04 Mar '19 19:20
    Interesting anecdote in this New Yorker article:

    When Shine assumed command at Fox, the 2016 campaign was nearing its end, and Trump and Clinton were all but tied. That fall, a FoxNews.com reporter had a story that put the network’s journalistic integrity to the test. Diana Falzone, who often covered the entertainment industry, had obtained proof that Trump had engaged in a sexual relationship in 2006 with a pornographic film actress calling herself Stormy Daniels. Falzone had worked on the story since March, and by October she had confirmed it with Daniels through her manager at the time, Gina Rodriguez, and with Daniels’s former husband, Mike Moz, who described multiple calls from Trump. Falzone had also amassed e-mails between Daniels’s attorney and Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen, detailing a proposed cash settlement, accompanied by a nondisclosure agreement. Falzone had even seen the contract.

    But Falzone’s story didn’t run—it kept being passed off from one editor to the next. After getting one noncommittal answer after another from her editors, Falzone at last heard from LaCorte, who was then the head of FoxNews.com. Falzone told colleagues that LaCorte said to her, “Good reporting, kiddo. But Rupert wants Donald Trump to win. So just let it go.” LaCorte denies telling Falzone this, but one of Falzone’s colleagues confirms having heard her account at the time.

    Despite the discouragement, Falzone kept investigating, and discovered that the National Enquirer, in partnership with Trump, had made a “catch and kill” deal with Daniels—buying the exclusive rights to her story in order to bury it. Falzone pitched this story to Fox, too, but it went nowhere. News of Trump’s payoffs to silence Daniels, and Cohen’s criminal attempts to conceal them as legal fees, remained unknown to the public until the Wall Street Journal broke the story, a year after Trump became President.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house

    Is this a prime example of journalistic ethics? Or something else?
  2. Subscriberno1marauder
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    04 Mar '19 19:25
    Remember that Cohen paying off Daniels right before the election to aid Trump's campaign led to a felony conviction. So Fox News was covering up a crime in order to help the Donald's electoral chances.

    Youza!
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    04 Mar '19 20:16
    @no1marauder said
    Remember that Cohen paying off Daniels right before the election to aid Trump's campaign led to a felony conviction. So Fox News was covering up a crime in order to help the Donald's electoral chances.

    Youza!
    Yeah, but what about that single question that was passed to Clinton in the primary debates? Doesn't that show that the DNC is the true criminal organization here? At least the RNC had honest people working for them, like convicted felon Elliott Broidy and Michael Cohen as deputy finance chairmen.
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    @no1marauder said
    Interesting anecdote in this New Yorker article:

    When Shine assumed command at Fox, the 2016 campaign was nearing its end, and Trump and Clinton were all but tied. That fall, a FoxNews.com reporter had a story that put the network’s journalistic integrity to the test. Diana Falzone, who often covered the entertainment industry, had obtained proof that Trump had engaged ...[text shortened]... ng-of-the-fox-news-white-house

    Is this a prime example of journalistic ethics? Or something else?
    Isn't it fun...pretending that Fox news is journalism
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    05 Mar '19 00:29
    @no1marauder said
    Remember that Cohen paying off Daniels right before the election to aid Trump's campaign led to a felony conviction. So Fox News was covering up a crime in order to help the Donald's electoral chances.

    Youza!
    Why are you lying? there was no felony conviction regarding this.
  6. Subscriberno1marauder
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    @mott-the-hoople said
    Why are you lying? there was no felony conviction regarding this.
    WTF???

    Here's the plea agreement: https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-michael-cohen-plea-agreement

    Check out Count 8.

    EDIT: If that is too hard to follow for you:

    Michael Cohen, President Trump’s longtime personal attorney, admitted Tuesday to violating federal campaign finance laws by arranging hush money payments to adult film star Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal “at the direction” of then-candidate Trump.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michael-cohen-admits-violating-campaign-finance-laws-in-plea-deal-agrees-to-3-5-year-sentence

    EDIT2: You should really stop saying people are "lying" when they are presenting well-known and easily documented facts.
  7. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    05 Mar '19 02:49
    @mott-the-hoople said
    Why are you lying? there was no felony conviction regarding this.
    Need more Rolaids?
  8. SubscriberSuzianne
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    05 Mar '19 03:161 edit
    @mott-the-hoople said
    Why are you lying? there was no felony conviction regarding this.
    I guess it must be a lie if you never saw it on Fox.

    Hint: Stop watching fake news.
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    08 Mar '19 21:22
    @Suzianne
    Yeah, like he will now convert to MSNBC or NPR😉
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    @sonhouse said
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    Yeah, like he will now convert to MSNBC or NPR😉
    You guys say all this, but paying off a hooker is to me the only proven ‘bad’ thing he has ever done, which his wife punishes him for, not the law?
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    09 Mar '19 14:40
    @livineasy4 said
    You guys say all this, but paying off a hooker is to me the only proven ‘bad’ thing he has ever done, which his wife punishes him for, not the law?
    You don't think bribery, fraud, rape, sexual assault, corruption or assisting an enemy military are bad things?
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    @livineasy4 said
    You guys say all this, but paying off a hooker is to me the only proven ‘bad’ thing he has ever done, which his wife punishes him for, not the law?
    The difficulty in discussing Trump with his coterie is that they excuse behavior in him that they would simply not tolerate in, for example, Obama.

    This is why Trump, and his people, have no credibility.

    It's impossible to believe that you believe the things you say. Do you see the problem?
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    09 Mar '19 18:12
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    Other than that Mrs Lincoln, what did you think of the play......
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