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no1marauder
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Will France go far right? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/french-election-emmanuel-macron-to-face-marine-le-pen-in-french-presidential-election-runoff/ar-AAW4ewv?li=BB141NW3

Run-off between Macron and Le Pen is in less than two weeks and polls say it will be tight.

What say the Euros here?

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@no1marauder said
Will France go far right? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/french-election-emmanuel-macron-to-face-marine-le-pen-in-french-presidential-election-runoff/ar-AAW4ewv?li=BB141NW3

Run-off between Macron and Le Pen is in less than two weeks and polls say it will be tight.

What say the Euros here?
Yeah, those Le Pen's still hanging around.
Her father preceded her......This is 'The Sequel.'
She seems to be more reasonable than her father/

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Na. Everyone who is going to vote for Le Pen already did so.
Everyone else will band around Macron.

Le Pen is an aquired taste.

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She says she wants to issue fines to Muslims who wear headscarves in public.

and she's going to get elected??? jeeeeeeezis

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@shavixmir said
Na. Everyone who is going to vote for Le Pen already did so.
Everyone else will band around Macron.

Le Pen is an aquired taste.
Expired taste?

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@earl-of-trumps said
She says she wants to issue fines to Muslims who wear headscarves in public.

and she's going to get elected??? jeeeeeeezis
Yeah. Welcome to Europe.

Yaaah… we have our own little brands of nutjobs.
Sure, we don’t have the A-class sort of Jewish space laser whacko the US has, but, oh… anti-moslim, anti-Jew, anti-refugee (unless they’re Ukrainian), pro-Israel (oh, the European extreme right has a mixed message for sure) we have by the sack full.

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@no1marauder said
Will France go far right? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/french-election-emmanuel-macron-to-face-marine-le-pen-in-french-presidential-election-runoff/ar-AAW4ewv?li=BB141NW3

Run-off between Macron and Le Pen is in less than two weeks and polls say it will be tight.

What say the Euros here?
What are you calling 'far right' these days, how does it differ from simply 'right'?

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Macron made himself unpopular by pushing through some necessary but painful pension reforms; he's a known variable. Le Pen is an unknown. I believe French voters will take the devil they know over the devil they don't know.

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@no1marauder said
Will France go far right? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/french-election-emmanuel-macron-to-face-marine-le-pen-in-french-presidential-election-runoff/ar-AAW4ewv?li=BB141NW3

Run-off between Macron and Le Pen is in less than two weeks and polls say it will be tight.

What say the Euros here?
I’d bet on macron it’s apparently the biggest gap between the run off candidates since Mitterrand.
A lot depends on what the far left candidate instructs his voters to do but long term French politics is getting as divided as any where else the old centre left and right parties have all but disappeared.

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@no1marauder said
Will France go far right? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/french-election-emmanuel-macron-to-face-marine-le-pen-in-french-presidential-election-runoff/ar-AAW4ewv?li=BB141NW3

Run-off between Macron and Le Pen is in less than two weeks and polls say it will be tight.

What say the Euros here?
Admittedly, I know very little about French politics, but it seems very unlikely given that Mecron and Melenchon combined for 50% of the vote (Melenchon almost beat Le Pen to get into the runoff).

Are Melenchon voters going to move to Le Pen? Why would they? If not, Le Pen is basically eliminated.

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Big Mac v “Vichy” le Pen, place your bets.

I predict Macron.

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@sh76 said
Admittedly, I know very little about French politics, but it seems very unlikely given that Mecron and Melenchon combined for 50% of the vote (Melenchon almost beat Le Pen to get into the runoff).

Are Melenchon voters going to move to Le Pen? Why would they? If not, Le Pen is basically eliminated.
The Left will vote against Le Pen. They haven’t forgotten her father’s rant about the holocaust being a “mere detail” of history.

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Le Pen is moving away from far-right but she will always be tarred with her Father’s extremism. Her more centrist policies and new-look rhetoric aren’t enough to garner sufficient votes.

France seems to be politically shifting though as uncontrolled immigration continues to add tension to many communities and strain on social systems. Some of the southern towns such as Marseille have migrant slum areas now.

Macron will hold power for a while longer as there isn’t a viable alternative. If Marine Le Pen stepped aside the right might be able to find a more acceptable face.

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@moonbus said
@no1marauder

Macron made himself unpopular by pushing through some necessary but painful pension reforms; he's a known variable. Le Pen is an unknown. I believe French voters will take the devil they know over the devil they don't know.
Le Pen is not exactly unknown. For instance, it is known that she is an admirer of Putin, like most on the far right. This may well cost her some wavering voters.

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All these points seem reasonable, but the latest polling has Macron with only a 6 point lead whereas he was up by 16 on March 20. And his net approval rating is now at -10%. https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/france/

It may well be a mistake to presume that virtually everyone who voted for Mélenchon will automatically shift to Macron. Some of that vote may be a solid anti-Macron one who might see Melenchon as more desirable than Le Pen, but still be sufficiently in favor of "change" to vote against Macron once again.

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