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Why do you think the British were there in the first place? Britain is pretty far...

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Why do you think the British were there in the first place? Britain is pretty far...
Britain controlled 100 times Israel's geographical area in the middle east.

The specific plot of land on which Israel has virtually no geographical significance other than that ascribed to it by various religions.

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Originally posted by sh76
Britain controlled 100 times Israel's geographical area in the middle east.

The specific plot of land on which Israel has virtually no geographical significance other than that ascribed to it by various religions.
So did the Arabs. And the Turks. And the Mamluke Egyptians. And the Crusaders. And the Eastern Roman Empire.

EDIT - Venice and Genoa too.

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You cannot walk from Egypt to Iraq without passing through Israel. Right?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
So did the Arabs. And the Turks. And the Mamluke Egyptians. And the Crusaders. And the Eastern Roman Empire.

EDIT - Venice and Genoa too.
What is your point here? What does this have to do with your underlying thesis that the land of Israel has geographic significance?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
You cannot walk from Egypt to Iraq without passing through Israel. Right?
No; you'd have to get in your canoe for a few kilometers at one of two places.

What is your point?

Who is interested in walking from Egypt to Iraq? Why is this significant?

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Originally posted by sh76
No; you'd have to get in your canoe for a few kilometers at one of two places.

What is your point?

Who is interested in walking from Egypt to Iraq? Why is this significant?
My point is Israel controls all wheeled traffic between Africa and the rest of the world. You cannot drive trucks through the sea or carry them on canoes! Now you need ports, and extra vehicles to make the trip instead of just a truck.

In addition, they control most of the coast and are blockading what little bit of the coast the Palestinians are trying to use.

This is a good read:

http://www.buffalo-israel-link.org/Joel3.htm

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
My point is Israel controls all wheeled traffic between Africa and the rest of the world. You cannot drive trucks through the sea or carry them on canoes! Now you need ports, and extra vehicles to make the trip instead of just a truck.

In addition, they control most of the coast and are blockading what little bit of the coast the Palestinians are trying to use.

This is a good read:

http://www.buffalo-israel-link.org/Joel3.htm
It is an interesting read, thank you.

But as far as Israel being so significant geographically when you don't count the religious ramifications, sorry, it just doesn't work.

African goods are not trucked to the middle east or Europe. It's far more convenient to ship or even fly them.

Egypt and Turkey have eastern Med. coasts that dwarf Israel's and Syria and Lebanon each have coasts that are almost as long as Israel's.

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Originally posted by sh76
Care to explain what significance the "eastern Mediterranean coast" has?
http://home.snu.edu/~hculbert/bridge.htm

Israel is the square d4. Just because there are other central squares doesn't mean it's not a strategic point.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
http://home.snu.edu/~hculbert/bridge.htm

Israel is the square d4. Just because there are other central squares doesn't mean it's not a strategic point.
Uh, ATY, I'm not sure if you've been asleep for a couple of millennia... but the desert is no longer impassable. 😉

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
You cannot walk from Egypt to Iraq without passing through Israel. Right?
if Egypt and Saudi Arabia were really worried about that, they could build a bridge across the Straits of Tiran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_Tiran

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
if Egypt and Saudi Arabia were really worried about that, they could build a bridge across the Straits of Tiran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_Tiran
They shouldn't have to.

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another Opium War, this time to force Israel to permit an African-Asian highway across its borders?

is that the liberal solution nowadays?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
another Opium War, this time to force Israel to permit an African-Asian highway across its borders?

is that the liberal solution nowadays?
What are you babbling about? Opium? War? "Forcing Israel to permit"?

I'm simply pointing out that Israel is on very strategic ground.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
What are you babbling about? Opium? War? "Forcing Israel to permit"?

I'm simply pointing out that Israel is on very strategic ground.
not when you say:

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
They shouldn't have to.