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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15934564

So if I was unemployed I would be getting a 5.2% pay rise this year and index linked payrises after that for the next 4 years.

However, as I'm a teacher - my pay will be frozen for this year and next and then rise by a maximum of 1% each of the next two years.

How is this fair?

Yes I know the poor spend more of their benefits and this boosts demand but still...

I won't be striking (its unfair on the kids) but if he gets his pension changes through - I'll be working 7 years longer, contributing and 3.3% of my salary each month only to get less when and if I live to retirement age.

All that will happen is that others teachers will leave the scheme and in a few years there will be shortfall and my contributions will rise agian.

I know we have a flipping deficit - but we need a credible plan to make Britain competitive - iritating the public sector won't increase GDP - It will just result in more strikes and lost GDP!

Q. Talking of GDP how did you predict it George? A. Badly (see graph)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/interactive/2011/nov/29/autumn-statement-2011-economy

You are clueless idiot George managing an economy where inflation is more than double target but wages are stagnant, unemployment is rising and the young are forgotten. That one way to disprove the Phillips Curve!

Lets look at the key economic indicators:

Economic Growth at 2.5%pa Trend - You are miles off!
Balance of Payment on Current Account - Despite 25% depreciation in Sterling index in 5 years huge deficit - Epic fail
Low Unemployment - Rising fast & new jobs are PT or temporary.
Inflation at 2% + or -1% - It is at 5% and Energy is at 18%
Inequality - The rich are getting richer the 99% are getting poorer and the bottom decile is an underclass.

How much do want to suffocate the UK population?
What needs to happen for you to resign?

Just go you toffee nosed ignorant buffoon!

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Originally posted by invigorate
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15934564

So if I was unemployed I would be getting a 5.2% pay rise this year and index linked payrises after that for the next 4 years.

However, as I'm a teacher - my pay will be frozen for this year and next and then rise by a maximum of 1% each of the next two years.

How is this fair?

Yes I know the poor ...[text shortened]... tion?
What needs to happen for you to resign?

Just go you toffee nosed ignorant buffoon!
i am self employed, i work outside in all conditions except when it reaches below zero,
i need to provide all my equipment, pay for insurances, licenses, make provision for
contingencies, pay for any pension schemes, pay for vehicles. On top of that i must do
many hours of unpaid work, chasing up monies, filing and accountancy, detailing
invoices, providing estimates and quotations etc etc i have never had a paid holiday in
my life, in fact, i cannot count the number of paid holidays teachers get, you have an
easy life sir in comparison, i would not complain about it if i were you, its petulant to do
so. Your devotion towards the children is admirable and i thank you for it.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
i am self employed, i work outside in all conditions except when it reaches below zero,
i need to provide all my equipment, pay for insurances, licenses, make provision for
contingencies, pay for any pension schemes, pay for vehicles. On top of that i must do
many hours of unpaid work, chasing up monies, filing and accountancy, detailing
inv ...[text shortened]... ts petulant to do
so. Your devotion towards the children is admirable and i thank you for it.
'Never judge a man till you've walked a mile in his moccasins'.

Now what about those workers who are striking who don't get the holidays teachers do? Because that's seems to be the crux of your argument.

In any case, as a self employed person (like me), you only pay a fraction of the NIC's that a public worker would. It's swings and roundabouts Carrobie.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
'Never judge a man till you've walked a mile in his moccasins'.

Now what about those workers who are striking who don't get the holidays teachers do? Because that's seems to be the crux of your argument.

In any case, as a self employed person (like me), you only pay a fraction of the NIC's that a public worker would. It's swings and roundabouts Carrobie.
well ok you have a point and being a socialist at heart, i concur, but never the less, a
cushy classroom sure beats a freezing Scottish winter any time!

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
well ok you have a point and being a socialist at heart, i concur, but never the less, a
cushy classroom sure beats a freezing Scottish winter any time!
Getting to work in the adult world and not having to deal with other people's disrespectful brats sounds great to me.

Every job has it problems.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
well ok you have a point and being a socialist at heart, i concur, but never the less, a
cushy classroom sure beats a freezing Scottish winter any time!
Well that maybe the case, but consider this -

Most alarmingly, the Samaritans have reported that the rate of suicide per 100,000 teachers in England and Wales is 14.20 compared with 10.25 per 100,000 people in the general population.


Teaching is one of the most stressful jobs in the UK.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/apr/13/stressed-teachers-face-burn-out

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Originally posted by Eladar
Getting to work in the adult world and not having to deal with other people's disrespectful brats sounds great to me.

Every job has it problems.
yes i am sure it does, never the less, at least teachers have the option to strike, if i go
on strike, what happens? my customers understand my predicament and wait until i
raise my prices to bring them into harmony with inflation, yes that will be shining bright


feels bum and gets back to the real world.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Well that maybe the case, but consider this -

Most alarmingly, the Samaritans have reported that the rate of suicide per 100,000 teachers in England and Wales is 14.20 compared with 10.25 per 100,000 people in the general population.


Teaching is one of the most stressful jobs in the UK.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/apr/13/stressed-teachers-face-burn-out
yes indeed, but its partly due to their being very little teachers can do to pupils without
risking litigation from parents who are so deviod of reality to think that their little
darlings cannot be trusted to behave. Its a product of your own secular liberal agenda
dear Noobster, 'dont belt the children', it teaches them that violence is an end in itself,
oh really, tell that to all the stressed out teachers there are, no way, if they cannot be
trusted to behave they should be removed, instantly and with force if necessary and
their parents fined!

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes indeed, but its partly due to their being very little teachers can do to pupils without
risking litigation from parents who are so deviod of reality to think that their little
darlings cannot be trusted to behave. Its a product of your own secular liberal agenda
dear Noobster, 'dont belt the children', it teaches them that violence is an e ...[text shortened]... ehave they should be removed, instantly and with force if necessary and
their parents fined!
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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
well ok you have a point and being a socialist at heart, i concur, but never the less, a
cushy classroom sure beats a freezing Scottish winter any time!
Recently one of the salesmen at work reminisced, if that's the right word, about the suffering he incurred, as a freshly expatriated Zimbabwean Shona man, during his first job as a door-to-door salesman of electricity in a periurban zone of Scotland. It was winter and the distances between doors was not inconsiderable ...

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Entertaining debate on Radio 2 today about the government suggestion for parents to take their children to work while teachers are on strike. Most people (no everyone) thought the suggestion was idiotic. The best call was from someone who said she works in a prison with convicted paedophiles. She thought on balance her daughter would be staying away from her workplace tomorrow.

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Originally posted by finnegan
Entertaining debate on Radio 2 today about the government suggestion for parents to take their children to work while teachers are on strike. Most people (no everyone) thought the suggestion was idiotic. The best call was from someone who said she works in a prison with convicted paedophiles. She thought on balance her daughter would be staying away from her workplace tomorrow.
What's frightening is that these same clueless buffoons are in charge of getting us out of the economic mire we're in.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
What's frightening is that these same clueless buffoons are in charge of getting us out of the economic mire we're in.
Constructing scaffolds and guillotines would create a few jobs.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
i am self employed, i work outside in all conditions except when it reaches below zero,
i need to provide all my equipment, pay for insurances, licenses, make provision for
contingencies, pay for any pension schemes, pay for vehicles. On top of that i must do
many hours of unpaid work, chasing up monies, filing and accountancy, detailing
inv ...[text shortened]... ts petulant to do
so. Your devotion towards the children is admirable and i thank you for it.
3 years ago I was self employed. I know where you are coming from - there are advantages and disadvantages to each way of life.

I will be forced to start a few business activities as a sideline to top up my salary soon anyway.

However, I must go now and try to work out how to explain the Euro crisis to a bunch of sleepy 17 year olds in an exciting hour lesson tomorrow morning.

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Whoever considers teaching a cushy job has never taught. Without those holidays, teach'd go fecking mad.

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