@metal-brain saidYou're the same guy who just said bringing up Venus was "stupid" after apparently not being aware its heat is due to to C02 rather than distance from the sun.
You learned something.
0.04%?
I don't think so.
So what you "think" doesn't matter much.
For what it's worth:
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2915/the-atmosphere-getting-a-handle-on-carbon-dioxide/
Humans have increased the amount of C02 by 47 percent since the beginning of the industrial age. 11 percent of the increase happened in just the last 20 years. There is definitely a problem that must be fixes, and soon.
@vivify saidVenus has a thicker atmosphere and it is not just comprised of CO2. The moon has a very thin atmosphere. How warm is it there Einstein?
You're the same guy who just said bringing up Venus was "stupid" after apparently not being aware its heat is due to to C02 rather than distance from the sun.
So what you "think" doesn't matter much.
@metal-brain said"The atmosphere of Venus is composed of 96.5% carbon dioxide, 3.5% nitrogen, and traces of other gases, most notably sulfur dioxide.[15]"
Venus has a thicker atmosphere and it is not just comprised of CO2. The moon has a very thin atmosphere. How warm is it there Einstein?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus
@vivify saidIncreasing an amount next to nothing to a little less than next to nothing should not be expected to cause significant warming.
For what it's worth:
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2915/the-atmosphere-getting-a-handle-on-carbon-dioxide/
Humans have increased the amount of C02 by 47 percent since the beginning of the industrial age. 11 percent of the increase happened in just the last 20 years. There is definitely a problem that must be fixes, and soon.
0.04%
Think about it. That is 4 hundredths of 1%. That is so far from 1% it is pathetic to expect anything more than a negligible effect.
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@metal-brain saidLMAO!
Increasing an amount next to nothing to a little less than next to nothing should not be expected to cause significant warming.
0.04%
Think about it. That is 4 hundredths of 1%. That is so far from 1% it is pathetic to expect anything more than a negligible effect.
The atmosphere is a bit more complex than your crank websites tell you:
"Carbon dioxide is an important greenhouse gas that helps to trap heat in our atmosphere. Without it, our planet would be inhospitably cold."
https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/how-climate-works/carbon-dioxide
"Earth's natural greenhouse effect makes life as we know it possible and carbon dioxide plays a significant role in providing for the relatively high temperature that the planet enjoys. The greenhouse effect is a process by which thermal radiation from a planetary atmosphere warms the planet's surface beyond the temperature it would have in the absence of its atmosphere.[39][40][41] Without the greenhouse effect, the Earth's temperature would be about −18 °C (−0.4 °F)[42][43] compared to Earth's actual surface temperature of approximately 14 °C (57.2 °F).[44]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere
@no1marauder saidIt is closer to the sun and you cannot see the surface of Venus from here. Why do you suppose that is?
"The atmosphere of Venus is composed of 96.5% carbon dioxide, 3.5% nitrogen, and traces of other gases, most notably sulfur dioxide.[15]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus
@metal-brain saidBecause of the clouds composed of 96.5% CO2?
It is closer to the sun and you cannot see the surface of Venus from here. Why do you suppose that is?
@no1marauder saidExplain yourself. You are deflecting to avoid providing an explanation. And stop making up the existence of nonexistent crank websites. That is just BS from you to avoid having to make sense of your nonsense.
LMAO!
The atmosphere is a bit more complex than your crank websites tell you.
@no1marauder saidCompared to 0.04% here. Do the math.
Because of the clouds composed of 96.5% CO2?
What clouds? Clouds of what?
@metal-brain said""Earth's natural greenhouse effect makes life as we know it possible and carbon dioxide plays a significant role in providing for the relatively high temperature that the planet enjoys. The greenhouse effect is a process by which thermal radiation from a planetary atmosphere warms the planet's surface beyond the temperature it would have in the absence of its atmosphere.[39][40][41] Without the greenhouse effect, the Earth's temperature would be about −18 °C (−0.4 °F)[42][43] compared to Earth's actual surface temperature of approximately 14 °C (57.2 °F).[44]"
Explain yourself. You are deflecting to avoid providing an explanation. And stop making up the existence of nonexistent crank websites. That is just BS from you to avoid having to make sense of your nonsense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere
These are facts any decently educated high school student would know.
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@metal-brain saidSure it has a lot more CO2 than Earth. That's why its surface temperature averages about 900F and ours is about 55F.
Compared to 0.04% here. Do the math.
What clouds? Clouds of what?
Are you still insisting that CO2 levels have no effect on temperature i.e. the "greenhouse effect" doesn't exist? Remember:
no1: "Not a single scientist disputes the common sense notion that higher CO2 composition in the atmosphere can lead to higher temperatures. "
MB: That is false!
@no1marauder saidThat is merely theory and not good theory.
""Earth's natural greenhouse effect makes life as we know it possible and carbon dioxide plays a significant role in providing for the relatively high temperature that the planet enjoys. The greenhouse effect is a process by which thermal radiation from a planetary atmosphere warms the planet's surface beyond the temperature it would have in the absence of its atmosphere. ...[text shortened]... ide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere
These are facts any decently educated high school student would know.
Water vapor is a far more significant greenhouse gas factor. CO2 warming is negligible compared to water.
0.04%
Think about it. It insults 1% it is so small.
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@no1marauder saidThere is no evidence that higher CO2 composition in the atmosphere on earth in the amounts we have increased it can lead to higher temperatures.
Sure it has a lot more CO2 than Earth. That's why its surface temperature averages about 900F and ours is about 55F.
Are you still insisting that CO2 levels have no effect on temperature i.e. the "greenhouse effect" doesn't exist? Remember:
no1: "Not a single scientist disputes the common sense notion that higher CO2 composition in the atmosphere can lead to higher temperatures. "
MB: That is false!
There is no water on Venus. Why can't we see the surface of Venus from here? Mars is mostly CO2 and we can see the surface of Mars. You are being silly. You don't understand science. You thought temps could not possibly cause higher CO2 levels in the atmosphere.
You have a lot to learn.
@metal-brain saidWell "teach" me how higher temperatures cause higher CO2 levels but not the reverse like every reputable scientist says.
There is no evidence that higher CO2 composition in the atmosphere on earth in the amounts we have increased it can lead to higher temperatures.
There is no water on Venus. Why can't we see the surface of Venus from here? Mars is mostly CO2 and we can see the surface of Mars. You are being silly. You don't understand science. You thought temps could not possibly cause higher CO2 levels in the atmosphere.
You have a lot to learn.