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@suzianne saidAre ignorant, brash and loud men considered pleasant?
Are docile and quiet women the only women who are pleasant?
Yes, I get your point and I agree with it, but I'm just wondering if you are conflating docile and quiet with pleasant.
Personally, I find little to like in either sex when they're cursed with such qualities.
@eladar saidEconomic shutdowns don't cause violence. The roots of violence are poor self-discipline and lack of impulse control. It's a character defect, and that's where the blame lies. Grow up, eladar--you have the emotional IQ of a six-year old.
It is much better not having it blow up to begin with. If the shut down doubles or triples the number of occurrences, that policy is in part to blame.
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@suzianne saidMy woman (that is to say she isn't 'mine' per se, but you know what I mean) is neither docile or quiet, but I have had pleasure in her company for more than four decades.
Are docile and quiet women the only women who are pleasant?
Yes, I get your point and I agree with it, but I'm just wondering if you are conflating docile and quiet with pleasant.
By the by, here in Indonesia, violence against women (and children) perpetrated by a man is severely punishable by law, whereas a woman can have at a man by whatever means or implement she sees fit with virtual impunity.
Edit: Unless she, like, kills him, then she might be in trouble, but even then she can claim provocation. On another tack, we have a man in the village whom we call 'Mr Choppy choppy' who hacked his father to death with a machete, but was let off with a warning ( like 'Don't kill your father again' ) because the father was a right bastard and had it coming.
@wolfe63 saidAre women who stand up for themselves really that distasteful to men?
Are ignorant, brash and loud men considered pleasant?
Personally, I find little to like in either sex when they're cursed with such qualities.
I say, no. Boys, maybe, but not men.
@indonesia-phil saidAs a side point, I'm against this sort of gender disparity.
My woman (that is to say she isn't 'mine' per se, but you know what I mean) is neither docile or quiet, but I have had pleasure in her company for more than four decades.
By the by, here in Indonesia, violence against women (and children) perpetrated by a man is severely punishable by law, whereas a woman can have at a man by whatever means or implement she sees fit with virtual impunity.
@suzianne saidI suppose one might call it positive discrimination, and I know what you mean.
As a side point, I'm against this sort of gender disparity.
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@suzianne saidEvery person has the right and should stand up for themselves.
Are women who stand up for themselves really that distasteful to men?
I say, no. Boys, maybe, but not men.
My exact words; which noted a few distasteful, non-gender aspects of our species, were: "Ignorant, brash and loud". There was no intended implication otherwise.
@indonesia-phil saidWell, the entire point of feminism is to seek fair and equal treatment, not to be treated better than men. Anything other than equal treatment is problematic and inherently unfair.
I suppose one might call it positive discrimination, and I know what you mean.
I find that men who aren't insecure in their own personhood have no problem with strong women. Of course there are 'gender narcissists' and misogynists out there, but thankfully, I see fewer of them around than I used to.
@suzianne saidA few years ago I was cutting a hedge and my wife was holding the ladder. You do realise why you're the one up the ladder she said? Not really? It's because men don't have the strength of character to handle it the other way round so they end up with all the experience using the cutters. I could find no come back. Some weeks later she cut through the cable whilst using the hedge cutter (a modern well insulated one). I realised that she had still played the perfect move, I still had no comeback as this had been set up to happen by man's lack of strength denying her experience. They say autism is under diagnosed in female children since a lack of sophistication in social communication still leaves them well on a par with same age males.
Tsk, tsk...
I sense that you're trying to bait me...
But never let it be said that I'm not accomodating:
God gave Woman a tongue so that Man would forever be reminded who the smart one was. It wasn't a mistake, it was a caution against vanity. And Man has never forgiven her since.
@petewxyz saidHah!
A few years ago I was cutting a hedge and my wife was holding the ladder. You do realise why you're the one up the ladder she said? Not really? It's because men don't have the strength of character to handle it the other way round so they end up with all the experience using the cutters. I could find no come back. Some weeks later she cut through the cable whilst using the h ...[text shortened]... lack of sophistication in social communication still leaves them well on a par with same age males.
@wolfe63 saidI agree that people who are ignorant, brash and loud (I'd add arrogant) are rather intolerable regardless of their gender.
Every person has the right and should stand up for themselves.
My exact words; which noted a few distasteful, non-gender aspects of our species, were: "Ignorant, brash and loud". There was no intended implication otherwise.