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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
So progress is turning out the lights and turning off the heat? Pshaw! I'll take my chances with your boogeyman, so-called "global warming."
progress is accepting technology selectivly for the greater good, not making as many new things as possible, al gore can burn with his global warming, enviromental is not the number one issue even if we save the enviroment there will be way to many people packed in every nitch in the world half of which are unproductive, we do not need a primitive culture by any means, simply one built around stability and smart thinking, ratehr than consumption, expansion and greed

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Originally posted by mrblimp
progress is accepting technology selectivly for the greater good, not making as many new things as possible, al gore can burn with his global warming, enviromental is not the number one issue even if we save the enviroment there will be way to many people packed in every nitch in the world half of which are unproductive, we do not need a primitive culture by ...[text shortened]... mply one built around stability and smart thinking, ratehr than consumption, expansion and greed
"...there will be way to many people packed in every nitch in the world"

Just to put this into perspective, and for the fun of it, if every person were to lay down to the next one how much area would they cover? A straight forward calc, the square root of the population multiplied by an average height and width.

Have a guess first. Post some honest estimates even.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
With global warming we won't need heat any more.
That's true, however, scientists are coming around to the fact that the earth has been cooling and a new ice age might be upon us:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352241,00.html

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[i]...we do not need a primitive culture by any means, simply one built around stability and smart thinking, ratehr than consumption, expansion and greed[/b]
Like in "Logan's Run" where the people where beautiful, healthy and affluent and had every want and desired fulfilled, but had to be terminated at age 30?

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Originally posted by Wajoma
"...there will be way to many people packed in every nitch in the world"

Just to put this into perspective, and for the fun of it, if every person were to lay down to the next one how much area would they cover? A straight forward calc, the square root of the population multiplied by an average height and width.

Have a guess first. Post some honest estimates even.
Doesn't matter -- you could still cram every person in the world today into the state of Texas.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Doesn't matter -- you could still cram every person in the world today into the state of Texas.
The state of Texas? Your estimate is way to high.

By my calcs, rounding up the average person with a bit if breathing space an area 74 km by 74 km, a tiny speck of a nook of a cranny of the state of Texas, the entire rest of the world would be devoid of any human, the greenies wet dream.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
The state of Texas? Your estimate is way to high.

By my calcs, rounding up the average person with a bit if breathing space an area 74 km by 74 km, a tiny speck of a nook of a cranny of the state of Texas, the entire rest of the world would be devoid of any human, the greenies wet dream.
sadly the extent of human living extends beyond the space of our breath, we consume more than we produce as an individual, and our levels of waste are unimaginable.

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Originally posted by mrblimp
sadly the extent of human living extends beyond the space of our breath, we consume more than we produce as an individual, and our levels of waste are unimaginable.
Oh gawd, thank you captain obvious. I did say just for fun, I guess with the weight of the world resting on those puny shoulders you don't have time for it.

Yes, doom and gloom, we're all going to fry, and die like sardines boiled in a can.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
Oh gawd, thank you captain obvious. I did say just for fun, I guess with the weight of the world resting on those puny shoulders you don't have time for it.

Yes, doom and gloom, we're all going to fry, and die like sardines boiled in a can.
now now i was just bringing it back on point, no need for name calling i supose the fate of the world can wait. though that does not deminish the fact that all the obvious is still only breeding itself, will future technology be able to improve society or will need to take a step back to go forward again

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Originally posted by Wajoma
The state of Texas? Your estimate is way to high.

By my calcs, rounding up the average person with a bit if breathing space an area 74 km by 74 km, a tiny speck of a nook of a cranny of the state of Texas, the entire rest of the world would be devoid of any human, the greenies wet dream.
You couldn't sustain them on that much land though.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
"...there will be way to many people packed in every nitch in the world"

Just to put this into perspective, and for the fun of it, if every person were to lay down to the next one how much area would they cover? A straight forward calc, the square root of the population multiplied by an average height and width.

Have a guess first. Post some honest estimates even.
in Stand on Zanzibar, i think the author said all the people would fit into a cube three miles to each side, but that book was from the seventies. and science fiction so he could have picked his population figure from the air.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
The state of Texas? Your estimate is way to high.

By my calcs, rounding up the average person with a bit if breathing space an area 74 km by 74 km, a tiny speck of a nook of a cranny of the state of Texas, the entire rest of the world would be devoid of any human, the greenies wet dream.
does that assume a 1-story building?

time to buy stock in Japanese cubicle hotel manufacturers.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
"...there will be way to many people packed in every nitch in the world"

Just to put this into perspective, and for the fun of it, if every person were to lay down to the next one how much area would they cover? A straight forward calc, the square root of the population multiplied by an average height and width.

Have a guess first. Post some honest estimates even.
I seem to remember a documentary a few years back stating that if every person in the world occupied 1 square metre (I think), then they could all fit on to the Isle of Wight.
If the population density was to be that of New York, they could all fit on to (former) Yugoslavia.

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Originally posted by reinfeld
[b]the underlying principle of the amish is that God reveals absolute truths which they are required to obey...man ( secularism and humanism ) is a false light and man must be subservient to the truths laid down in the Bible...
Don't trust der English. 😉

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other than their pretty paranoid fear of technology, i have nothing against amish. i have not heard of a shootout between amish gangs(pardon, i mean a fight with pitchforks between amish gangs). they have no drugs, and they seem happy(as happy as people can be without tv). and they are not like other sects where they will kill you if you want to leave. (though they will not speak with you anymore which is kind of sad)

i say live and let live.