GOP back-tracking on IVF

GOP back-tracking on IVF

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@shavixmir said
Don’t be an arse.
If you can’t tell the difference between a minimum wage and abortion rights, it just shows you up for what you are: an incel.
That is precisely what this means shag doody for brains.

The pseud know as SDfB said:

"...a woman is free to do to her body that which she wants."

The only question is, you don't know what it means or you don't mean it?

One or the other only, the only possible conclusions.

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@wajoma said
That is precisely what this means shag doody for brains.

The pseud know as SDfB said:

"...a woman is free to do to her body that which she wants."

The only question is, you don't know what it means or you don't mean it?

One or the other only, the only possible conclusions.
No it doesn’t, you stain on a T-shirt.
As everyone with half a brain cell or more knows.

Labour laws are universal for the benefit of people (and to stop the abuse of the overlords profitting off the backs of people’s hard work). Much like laws along the lines of: don’t steal or rape. Making life easier for people

Abortion rights give a woman control over her body. Making life easier for her.

Your nitwit interpretation of law is the reason why you and Rand are laughed at. Say, didn’t she end up on social security… yes. Yes she did.

What you are attempting, and obviously failing in, is arguing that any safe guard for humanity is repression of the individual.
And except for the moronic right, nobody on the planet agrees with that (hence treaties, laws, etc.)

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@shavixmir said
No it doesn’t, you stain on a T-shirt.
As everyone with half a brain cell or more knows.

Labour laws are universal for the benefit of people (and to stop the abuse of the overlords profitting off the backs of people’s hard work). Much like laws along the lines of: don’t steal or rape. Making life easier for people

Abortion rights give a woman control over her body. M ...[text shortened]... And except for the moronic right, nobody on the planet agrees with that (hence treaties, laws, etc.)
Shag doo doo said:

"Much like laws along the lines of: don’t steal or rape."

shag doody, raping and stealing is an initiation of force, one party against another, what you're suffering from is a delusion known as ANALOGY FAIL ANALOGY FAIL minimum wage laws get in the way of the voluntary exchange of value for value.

So we're back to this; You don't know what it means or you don't mean it, when you say 'womans body, womans choice'.

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@wajoma said
Shag doo doo said:

"Much like laws along the lines of: don’t steal or rape."

shag doody, raping and stealing is an initiation of force, one party against another, what you're suffering from is a delusion known as ANALOGY FAIL ANALOGY FAIL minimum wage laws get in the way of the voluntary exchange of value for value.

So we're back to this; You don't know what it means or you don't mean it, when you say 'womans body, womans choice'.
Just because you with your demented opinions think something is a fail, doesn't make it so.

Ask anyone you know, and you'll discover why you're wrong. I'm sick to fukking death with your alt-right stupidity.

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@shavixmir said
Just because you with your demented opinions think something is a fail, doesn't make it so.

Ask anyone you know, and you'll discover why you're wrong. I'm sick to fukking death with your alt-right stupidity.
I can say it's an analogy fail, because I took the time to explain very clearly the difference between raping and stealing, and the exchange of value for value between consenting parties, free from force and threats of force.

Doody for Brains said:

"Much like laws along the lines of: don’t steal or rape."

You even used the word 'like' to indicate you were trying to draw a parallel between two very un-alike scenarios, one could say directly opposing scenarios.

Who knows how you try to reconcile your hypocrisies and control freakism with your own conscience but you cannot pretend rape is like two people agreeing to trade voluntarily with each other.

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@wajoma said
I can say it's an analogy fail, because I took the time to explain very clearly the difference between raping and stealing, and the exchange of value for value between consenting parties, free from force and threats of force.

Doody for Brains said:

"Much like laws along the lines of: don’t steal or rape."

You even used the word 'like' to in ...[text shortened]... cience but you cannot pretend rape is like two people agreeing to trade voluntarily with each other.
Stealing? As in stealing someone’s time?
Raping as putting people in a dangerous environment.

You are pathetic.

Your explanations are shyte, based upon your skewered world view.

Go rape roos.

Ask ANY prostitute if she wants to earn at least a minimum wage. And ask that same prostitute if she’s anti-abortion.

Everyone understands this, except for you.

You fukkwit.

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@shavixmir said
Stealing? As in stealing someone’s time?
Raping as putting people in a dangerous environment.

You are pathetic.

Your explanations are shyte, based upon your skewered world view.

Go rape roos.

Ask ANY prostitute if she wants to earn at least a minimum wage. And ask that same prostitute if she’s anti-abortion.

Everyone understands this, except for you.

You fukkwit.
You've become distraught shag doody, it's all those contradictions competing with each other in your head, you know contradictions like 'womans body, womans choice', except when shag doody says it's not womans choice.

Stealing: As in, the initiation of force
Rape: As in, the initiation of force
Voluntary trade of value for value: As in, the non-initiation of force.

Almost everywhere prostitutes are on way over the minimum wage, in NZ I think the rate is about 10x the minimum. In 3rd world countries, again, way over the minimum and if there is no minimum way more than the average shop assistant or secretary. So not sure what you're trying to pull with that diversion.

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@wajoma said
You've become distraught shag doody, it's all those contradictions competing with each other in your head, you know contradictions like 'womans body, womans choice', except when shag doody says it's not womans choice.

Stealing: As in, the initiation of force
Rape: As in, the initiation of force
Voluntary trade of value for value: As in, the non-initiation of force.

A ...[text shortened]... the average shop assistant or secretary. So not sure what you're trying to pull with that diversion.
READ WHAT I WROTE AND THEN READ WHAT YOU ARE WRITING.

You fukking retard. A minimum wage is… a minimum…

My God… get your cock out of a koala and take a shower or something.

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@shavixmir said
READ WHAT I WROTE AND THEN READ WHAT YOU ARE WRITING.

You fukking retard. A minimum wage is… a minimum…

My God… get your cock out of a koala and take a shower or something.
Doody for Pseudy Brains, you tried to draw an analogy between 'rape and stealing', and the voluntary exchange of value for value.

What ever reason you'd like to come up with for violating the right of free individuals to trade with each other, there can be no comparison with rape. We get it, you don't like people being free, you don't like women to have control over their own bodies, we get all that. The point is rape is nothing like trading with another person on terms agreed to by both parties.

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@wajoma said
That is precisely what this means shag doody for brains.

The pseud know as SDfB said:

"...a woman is free to do to her body that which she wants."

The only question is, you don't know what it means or you don't mean it?

One or the other only, the only possible conclusions.
The woman can do what she likes with her body but an employer MUST pay a minimum wage high enough to allow the employees to live a decent life without welfare topics
Why should I, as a tax payer, subsidise an employers wage bill through welfare top ups?

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@shavixmir said
Hilarious.
But still, some Mississippi woman managed to block a pro-IVF bill… claiming it was allowing human-animal chimeras (well, I think that’s what she was saying, she sounded very trailer trash to me).

And then this other republican is stating that he’s pro-IVF… because he wants people breeding good families.
“Breeding”.

Seriously. Americans… hahaha
They can backpedal like a uni cyclist heading for cliff top, but the independent sane swing voter will know that this is the sort of woman hating insanity that is bubbling under the surface in the MAGA controlled gop. And some of the people that are backpedaling the strongest are ones who claim personhood begins at conception if pushed because the evangelicals that run their state machine truly believe it. They either have to own this or look like irrational hypocrites
Just like the banning of contraception and even recreational sex is on hit list for some movers and shakers on the fringes of the GOP

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@kevcvs57 said

Why should I, as a tax payer, subsidise an employers wage bill through welfare top ups?
You shouldn't

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@wajoma said
You shouldn't
But that is the reality of low pay economies, businesses that cannot really cut it in the market place can get by because the pubic purse, in effect pays some of their wage bill for them

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And it is not like make the minimum say 15 bucks an hour and that money just disappears from the system, like the folks against sending folks to the moon, billions of dollars going up in a spacecraft, it is not like that, the folks who build those rockets get there money here and spend their money here and pay their taxes.
Same with minimum wage efforts, so folks like Average Joe screams about a 15 buck and hour wage, then posts a ridiculous push for a 50 dollar an hour wage as if that was going into law next week when in fact it was a non starter but he posts that because he thinks that will show how desperate those cursed liberals are. But a 15 dollar minimum wage will put extra money in the hands of the employee and they will spend that money right back into the system, rent, groceries, insurance payments, tuition and so forth but those against it just see higher prices and zero benefits.

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@sonhouse said
@kevcvs57
And it is not like make the minimum say 15 bucks an hour and that money just disappears from the system, like the folks against sending folks to the moon, billions of dollars going up in a spacecraft, it is not like that, the folks who build those rockets get there money here and spend their money here and pay their taxes.
Same with minimum wage efforts, so folks ...[text shortened]... urance payments, tuition and so forth but those against it just see higher prices and zero benefits.
Yes definitely $15 spent in the local community is better for the economy than $15 spent on a yacht made in Scandinavia or rocket full for a zero gravity joy ride

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