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  1. 03 Jan '13 23:16
    Here are a list of those in the GOP who have voted to kick the can down the road....again.....with the recent fiscal cliff compromise. So I will go state by state in alphabetical order. If you don't see your state or your GOP representative assume they did not vote for the bill.

    Arkansas - Steve Womak

    Alaska - Don Young

    California - 1. Gary Miller 2. Buck McKeon 3. Brian Billray 4. Bono Mack 5. Den Calvert 6. Jeff Denham 7. David Dreir 8. Elton Gllegly 9. Wally Herger 10. Daniel Lungren

    Florida - 1. Bill Young 2. Vern Buchanan 3. Mario Diaz-Blart 4. Ileana Ross-Lehtinen

    Idaho - Mike Simpson

    Illinios - 1. John Skimkus 2. Judy Biggert 3. Robert Dold 4. Timothy Johnson 5. Adam Kinzinger 6. Donald Manzello 7. Aaron Schock.

    Kentucky - Harold Rogers

    Louisianna - Rodney Alexander

    Michigan - 1. Fred Upton 2. Mike Rogers 3. Candice Miller 4. Dan Bensheck 5. Dave Camp

    Missouri - 1. Jo Anne Emerson 2. Blaine Luetkemeyer

    Nebraska - Jeff FOrtenberry

    New Hampshire - Carhles Bass

    New Jersey - 1. Chris Smith 2. Rodney Frelinghuysen 3. Leanard Lance 4. Frank LoBiondo 5. Jon Runyon

    New York - 1. Chris Gibson 2. Michael Grumm 3. Richard Hanns 4. Nan Hayworth 5. Pete King

    Nevada - Joe Heck.

    Ohio - 1. John Boehner 2. Bill Johnson 3. Steve LaTourette 4. Robert Latta 5. Steve Stivers 6. Pat Tiberi

    Oklahoma - 1. Frank Lucas 2. John Sullivan

    Oregaon - Greg Walden

    Pennsylvania - 1. Tim Murphy 2. Tom Marine 3. Lou Barletta 4. Charles Dent 5. Michael Fitzpatrick 6. Jim Gerlack 7. Mike Kelly

    South Dakota - Kristi Noem

    Texas - 1. Mac Thornberry 2. Keven Brady 3. Pete Sessions 4. Lamar Smith

    Washington - 1. Doc Hastings 2. Jaime Herrera Beutler 3. McMorris Rodgers 4. David Reichart

    Wisonsin - 1. Reid Ribble 2. Paul Ryan

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    Imagine that, Paul Ryan is amognst the sell outs. I guess it's true what they say, if you can't beat'em then join'em!!

    I don't really care who these people are or even how nice they may be or what great citizens they may be. In the end, they are part of the problem and must go.
  2. 03 Jan '13 23:20 / 1 edit
    To be fair, I am also going to list the democrats who voted against Obama's continued spending insanity. So if you don't see your state or representative, assume your democrat representative voted for it.

    California - Xavier Beceria

    Connecticut - Rosa DeLauro

    Georgia - John Barrow

    Indiana - Jim Cooper

    North Carolina - 1. Mike McIntyre 2. Brad Miller

    Minnisota - Collin Peterson

    Oregon - 1. Earl Blumenauer 2. Peter DeFazio

    Utah - Jim Matherson

    Virginia - 1, James Moran 2. Robert Scott

    Washington - 1. Adam Smith 2. Jim McDermott

    This is for all 3 demorats out there that disagree with the Dick Cheney Doctrine that deficits don't matter anymore.
  3. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    03 Jan '13 23:22
    Originally posted by whodey
    Here are a list of those in the GOP who have voted to kick the can down the road....again.....with the recent fiscal cliff compromise. So I will go state by state in alphabetical order. If you don't see your state or your GOP representative assume they did not vote for the bill.

    Arkansas - Steve Womak

    Alaska - Don Young

    California - 1. Gary Miller ...[text shortened]... or what great citizens they may be. In the end, they are part of the problem and must go.
    I agree, they should go. We should replace them with Democrats, then we'll get some laws passed, end the gridlock, and make the government represent the people...not the fortune 500. Good call Whodey!
  4. 03 Jan '13 23:23
    It seems that 85 Republicans voted for the bill and 151 against.

    For the Democrats, 172 voted for the bill and 16 against.
  5. 03 Jan '13 23:23 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by bill718
    I agree, they should go. We should replace them with Democrats, then we'll get some laws passed, end the gridlock, and make the government represent the people...not the fortune 500. Good call Whodey!
    We can keep the 16 democrats.

    Bill, when the democrats had power they would not even pass a budget.
  6. 03 Jan '13 23:32 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Here are a list of those in the GOP who have voted to kick the can down the road....again.....with the recent fiscal cliff compromise. So I will go state by state in alphabetical order. If you don't see your state or your GOP representative assume they did not vote for the bill.

    Arkansas - Steve Womak

    Alaska - Don Young

    California - 1. Gary Miller or what great citizens they may be. In the end, they are part of the problem and must go.
    To be Primaried.
  7. 03 Jan '13 23:32
    Originally posted by whodey
    Here are a list of those in the GOP who have voted to kick the can down the road....again.....with the recent fiscal cliff compromise. So I will go state by state in alphabetical order. If you don't see your state or your GOP representative assume they did not vote for the bill.

    Arkansas - Steve Womak

    Alaska - Don Young

    California - 1. Gary Miller ...[text shortened]... or what great citizens they may be. In the end, they are part of the problem and must go.
    I disagree a bit on your pronouncement. It is absolutely true that this deal did nothing about the fiscal cliff and actually increased pork barrel spending. It did also make permanent (as permanent as they can be) current tax rates for most Americans. It isn't ideological purity, but I suspect Reagan would have voted for the bill.

    The real issue, anyway is spending. Increasing taxes on high earners isn't dealing with the real problem. That is the real battle.
  8. 03 Jan '13 23:34
    Originally posted by normbenign
    I disagree a bit on your pronouncement. It is absolutely true that this deal did nothing about the fiscal cliff and actually increased pork barrel spending. It did also make permanent (as permanent as they can be) current tax rates for most Americans. It isn't ideological purity, but I suspect Reagan would have voted for the bill.

    The real issue, anywa ...[text shortened]... Increasing taxes on high earners isn't dealing with the real problem. That is the real battle.
    Yeah, but whodey would now primary out Reagan.
  9. 03 Jan '13 23:36
    Originally posted by normbenign
    I disagree a bit on your pronouncement. It is absolutely true that this deal did nothing about the fiscal cliff and actually increased pork barrel spending. It did also make permanent (as permanent as they can be) current tax rates for most Americans. It isn't ideological purity, but I suspect Reagan would have voted for the bill.

    The real issue, anywa ...[text shortened]... Increasing taxes on high earners isn't dealing with the real problem. That is the real battle.
    So you agree with Dick Cheney that deficits don't matter?
  10. 04 Jan '13 00:06
    Originally posted by whodey
    So you agree with Dick Cheney that deficits don't matter?
    Did you read what I said. Tax rates can and do change. I think personally we need a total revamp of taxation starting with a repeal of the income tax.

    The problem with deficits is spending. Overspending lead to debt, and interest eating up a lot of revenue. Of course deficits matter, but $70B a year is chump change and the real deal is military spending, and entitlements. Of course, discretionary spending has to be examined, but total elimination of all that would still leave us in debt with annual deficits.
  11. 04 Jan '13 14:09
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Did you read what I said. Tax rates can and do change. I think personally we need a total revamp of taxation starting with a repeal of the income tax.

    The problem with deficits is spending. Overspending lead to debt, and interest eating up a lot of revenue. Of course deficits matter, but $70B a year is chump change and the real deal is military spendi ...[text shortened]... e examined, but total elimination of all that would still leave us in debt with annual deficits.
    Yes, the big three are defense spending, Obamacare, and Social Security. I was hoping that when the democrats were in complete power they would at least scale back defense spending, but I'm beginnning to see the writing on the wall. Even though democrats give lip service to doing so, and the GOP gives lip service to scaling back the other two, it's never gonna happen.
  12. 04 Jan '13 23:26
    So what are the predictions for the next down grade? We all know it's coming.