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06 Jan 07
Originally posted by clive59Olbermann. What a defeatist. Guys like him will bring about the fall of the western world a lot faster than any Al Queda group ever could. Guys like you too.
... I know, Jim, I'm not a citizen, I don't get to comment...let the neo cons pile on as they will. Maybe some will listen. The rest of us who are not blind already know. We said so ahead of time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYJqg0CU3xk&eurl=
06 Jan 07
Originally posted by Bobla45yeah it turned out there were lots of WMDs and ties to Al Qaeda in Iraq. "I told you so".
Olbermann. What a defeatist. Guys like him will bring about the fall of the western world a lot faster than any Al Queda group ever could. Guys like you too.
06 Jan 07
Originally posted by clive59There is a reason he is on the most insignificant news station in the country. His entire show amounts to little more than agenda driven editorial. He's as bad as Limbaugh.
yeah it turned out there were lots of WMDs and ties to Al Qaeda in Iraq. "I told you so".
And they did find almost 500 artillery shells with sarin and mustard gas. The product was junk, but nobody knew how bad Iraqi material was. WWI material, when it is found, is still quality product. If the iraqis were competent, those shells would still have useable material in them.
Not that I think these shells justify that piece of crap WMD arguement. I'm just trying to correct a very common error.
06 Jan 07
Originally posted by Merkright ... and those trailers too .... very dangerous......
There is a reason he is on the most insignificant news station in the country. His entire show amounts to little more than agenda driven editorial. He's as bad as Limbaugh.
And they did find almost 500 artillery shells with sarin and mustard gas. The product was junk, but nobody knew how bad Iraqi material was. WWI material, when it is found, is still qualit ...[text shortened]... ells justify that piece of crap WMD arguement. I'm just trying to correct a very common error.
06 Jan 07
Originally posted by MerkJust a thought... Weren't there several fighter jets found buried in the sand near Bagdad?
There is a reason he is on the most insignificant news station in the country. His entire show amounts to little more than agenda driven editorial. He's as bad as Limbaugh.
And they did find almost 500 artillery shells with sarin and mustard gas. The product was junk, but nobody knew how bad Iraqi material was. WWI material, when it is found, is still qualit ...[text shortened]... ells justify that piece of crap WMD arguement. I'm just trying to correct a very common error.
A few observations:
1. WMDs are a lot easier to hide or get rid of than figher jets.
2. Whoever was in charge of the Iraqi military choose to bury the planes rather than use them against America. Obviously they did not pull out all stops in trying to maximize American casulties.
3. Even an amateur strategist could reason that for America to not find WMDs in Iraq after invading would do a lot more harm than for a few army batallians to be attacked WMDs.
Not drawing any conclusions, but just putting out some food for thought.
06 Jan 07
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Originally posted by techsouthThere was some satellite images of a row of cargo trucks going from Iraq into Syria just before the invasion. One of the drivers supposedly later said the trucks were carrying gold and "other things"
Just a thought... Weren't there several fighter jets found buried in the sand near Bagdad?
A few observations:
1. WMDs are a [b]lot easier to hide or get rid of than figher jets.
2. Whoever was in charge of the Iraqi military choose to bury the planes rather than use them against America. Obviously they did not pull out all stops in trying to ...[text shortened]... o be attacked WMDs.
Not drawing any conclusions, but just putting out some food for thought.[/b]
Egyptian intelligence has also speculated that the Iraq exported the people with knowhow and small amounts of material into Syria before and during the early days of the invasion.
However, Egypt has just recently said that it may go farther then just energy with its nuclear program because Israel has them and Iran is going to, so Egypt needs them.
It makes for some shoddy speculation, but their could be something to it I guess.
06 Jan 07
Originally posted by clive59That is awesome how you defeat any rational conversation by pre-accusing anybody who might offer a differing opinion of being a neocon. It might have been clever except for the fact that the word "neocon" is just the buzz word of the day.
... I know, Jim, I'm not a citizen, I don't get to comment...let the neo cons pile on as they will. Maybe some will listen. The rest of us who are not blind already know. We said so ahead of time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYJqg0CU3xk&eurl=
Oh yeah, Oberman is just as much a tool as O'Reilly is.
06 Jan 07
Originally posted by ZahlanziAs a person, Olbermann seems to me like he is a good guy. I personally think he is extremely funny too. Even if I don't agree with him, his sense of humor brings tears to my eyes. If anybody remembers it, Olbermanns performance during the O'reilly "Felafel" incident is the stuff of legends.
yet another proof that decent people still live in US. However these proofs are useless until bush gets ...(something nasty, americans should figure what, it is their president)
As a newsman however, his performance is lacking.
06 Jan 07
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Originally posted by Merk500??? I don't suppose you have a source for that?
There is a reason he is on the most insignificant news station in the country. His entire show amounts to little more than agenda driven editorial. He's as bad as Limbaugh.
And they did find almost 500 artillery shells with sarin and mustard gas. The product was junk, but nobody knew how bad Iraqi material was. WWI material, when it is found, is still qualit ...[text shortened]... ells justify that piece of crap WMD arguement. I'm just trying to correct a very common error.
A few stray shells have been found with some chemical weapon material, but that seems to be indicative of inefficiency rather than some "secret" stash. Alack and alas, supporting a war means never having to say you're sorry and the rabid right wingers just won't admit that there wasn't any stockpile of WMD's in Iraq no matter what the evidence says. They got sent to Syria or Egypt or they're buried or or or or .................. etc.
EDIT: Even the Bush Administration's Iraq Survey Group concluded:
ISG has not found evidence that Saddam Husayn possessed WMD stocks in 2003, but the available evidence from its investigation—including detainee interviews and document exploitation—leaves open the possibility that some weapons existed in Iraq although not of a militarily significant capability.