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@metal-brain saidWhat exactly makes Michelle Obama evil?
...and Michelle loves GWB.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/10/11/michelle-obama-george-w-bush-my-partner-crime/1603296002/
Partners in crime. Couldn't have said it better myself. They are all criminals. Evil is bipartisan.
@metal-brain saidThat was a UN-approved, NATO-led operation. You'd have call the whole world "evil" in that case.
Condoning her husband's evil. He invaded Libya.
@vivify saidUN approval means nothing. The UN handed it over to NATO and never took responsibility for how NATO conducted the hostile invasion. The Korean war had UN approval too.
That was a UN-approved, NATO-led operation. You'd have call the whole world "evil" in that case.
The economic dominance of the USA gets approval out of fear of economic retaliation. Self interest often trumps ethics internationally.
Do I have to remind you the USA condoned MBS ordering the killing and dismemberment of a journalist? No country UN approved a Libya invasion because of human rights. That is obvious.
Where is the UN approved plan to topple the Saudi Kingdom with an invasion? Trump would sanction any country that tried and most of congress would condone it.
@metal-brain saidIf you run out of intelligent things to say this early (4th post) in a thread that you started, maybe you shouldn't have started the thread in the first place.
Condoning her husband's evil. He invaded Libya.
Just saying.
@metal-brain saidThis year the UN overwhelmingly voted against the U.S. proposal to name Jerusalem Israel's capital. Later, all but two UN nations condemned the U.S. embargo on Cuba.
The economic dominance of the USA gets approval out of fear of economic retaliation. Self interest often trumps ethics internationally.
Clearly, you're not correct.
@vivify saidDid those votes change any of that? Nope. The US doesn't solicit votes it doesn't need. They don't want it to be obvious.
This year the UN overwhelmingly voted against the U.S. proposal to name Jerusalem Israel's capital. Later, all but two UN nations condemned the U.S. embargo on Cuba.
Clearly, you're not correct.
I was talking about war. In this case a civil war.
Libya did not invade another country. There was no justification for invading Libya. Are you in favor of invading Saudi Arabia for human rights reasons?
Here is an excerpt from the link below:
It also comes amid increasingly threatening noises from the US towards undecided countries on the Security Council who have been warned of the unpleasant economic consequences of standing up to the US.
Here is another:
"The disclosure comes at a time when diplomats from the countries have been complaining about the outright 'hostility' of US tactics in recent days to persuade then to fall in line, including threats to economic and aid packages."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/mar/02/usa.iraq
Read about the US surveillance of UN delegates in New York as well.
Clearly, you're not correct.
@wolfgang59 saidIt would not matter if the US didn't get UN approval. They just want it if they can get it to try and convince people it is a just war. The Iraq invasion didn't get UN approval and Bush invaded anyway.
What!
They didn't OK it with you first?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/16/iraq.iraq
@metal-brain saidTrump did the same thing, threatening countries who didn't vote the he wanted on Israel:
It also comes amid increasingly threatening noises from the US towards undecided countries on the Security Council who have been warned of the unpleasant economic consequences of standing up to the US.
"The disclosure comes at a time when diplomats from the countries have been complaining about the outright 'hostility' of US tactics in recent days to persuade then to fall in line, including threats to economic and aid packages."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/20/donald-trump-threat-cut-aid-un-jerusalem-vote
Donald Trump has threatened to withhold “billions” of dollars of US aid from countries which vote in favour of a United Nations resolution rejecting the US president’s recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
Guess what? The UN STILL voted overwhelmingly against the U.S.
More proof you're flat out wrong.