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@techsouth saidThat's simply not so; there is no reason why the replacement of the Zionist entity called "Israel" with a State not giving Jews special privileges would mean "genocide of all its Jewish citizens".
The majority of Israelis were born there and have no other place to go.
The overthrow of Israel cannot happen without the genocide of all its Jewish citizens.
But at least you're honest about what you desire.
A discussion is here: https://jacobin.com/2021/04/one-state-solution-israeli-palestinian-conflict-resolution-democracy-rights
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@no1marauder saidso your remedy is for Jews to give in to muslims...stupid idiot
That's simply not so; there is no reason why the replacement of the Zionist entity called "Israel" with a State not giving Jews special privileges would mean "genocide of all its Jewish citizens".
A discussion is here: https://jacobin.com/2021/04/one-state-solution-israeli-palestinian-conflict-resolution-democracy-rights
it is appalling to see you supporting these baby killers
lop another head off for marerider
@mott-the-hoople saidRecognizing that all people have equal, Natural Rights isn't "giving in" to anything but reality.
so your remedy is for Jews to give in to muslims...stupid idiot
it is appalling to see you supporting these baby killers
lop another head off for marerider
@no1marauder saidIf only you believed this.
Recognizing that all people have equal, Natural Rights isn't "giving in" to anything but reality.
What you actually believe, and repeat ad nauseum, is that the biggest gang the 50.05% have a right to force their dream feelings on the 49.95%.
@no1marauder saidwhen in rome do as the romans do ring a bell?
Recognizing that all people have equal, Natural Rights isn't "giving in" to anything but reality.
@techsouth saidWhat a crock of shyte.
The majority of Israelis were born there and have no other place to go.
The overthrow of Israel cannot happen without the genocide of all its Jewish citizens.
But at least you're honest about what you desire.
@wajoma saidNo he doesn’t that’s why the US has checks and balances and basic rights against coercion in its constitution.
If only you believed this.
What you actually believe, and repeat ad nauseum, is that the biggest gang the 50.05% have a right to force their dream feelings on the 49.95%.
I take it you believe that the 49.5% should force their dream feelings on the 50% as long as they share your dream feelings concerning unbridled capitalism and devil take the hindmost and a ban on organised labour
@kevcvs57 saidKev Bamboozle, in a free society people can freely gather and form collectives eg; the free health care collective, the free education collective, the $50/hr minimum wage collective, the free clotshot collective. The only difference being they would not be able force membership on their unwilling fellow man, and they would have to pay for all the free stuff themselves.
No he doesn’t that’s why the US has checks and balances and basic rights against coercion in its constitution.
I take it you believe that the 49.5% should force their dream feelings on the 50% as long as they share your dream feelings concerning unbridled capitalism and devil take the hindmost and a ban on organised labour
I started out in the union, sitting around the smoko table dreaming up all the ways the boss was screwing us over, meal monies, time and 3/4, dirt money, travel allowance etc etc.
Been a contractor ever since, work one hour get paid one hour, no sick pay, no holiday pay, no overtime rates, and from experience, it's waaaayyyyy better.
@shavixmir saidShag Doody for Brains...
And you feel that the 49.95% or less have the right to oppress the majority. Probably in the name of property.
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@wajoma saidWhat does any of that musing about modern economics, a Man made creation, have to do with Natural Rights?
Kev Bamboozle, in a free society people can freely gather and form collectives eg; the free health care collective, the free education collective, the $50/hr minimum wage collective, the free clotshot collective. The only difference being they would not be able force membership on their unwilling fellow man, and they would have to pay for all the free stuff themselves.
I st ...[text shortened]... e hour, no sick pay, no holiday pay, no overtime rates, and from experience, it's waaaayyyyy better.
We know that you think Person A has a "right" to increase Persons B through Z's chances of catching a deadly, contagious disease but that just shows how bizarrely out of step your ideas are with a Natural Rights Doctrine like Locke's.
@no1marauder saidIsraeli Jews have no interest in being governed by an entity with values that are important and pallatable to the Palestinians and (I'm sure) vice-versa.
That's simply not so; there is no reason why the replacement of the Zionist entity called "Israel" with a State not giving Jews special privileges would mean "genocide of all its Jewish citizens".
A discussion is here: https://jacobin.com/2021/04/one-state-solution-israeli-palestinian-conflict-resolution-democracy-rights
Two states is the only solution.
@sh76 saidI've always agreed with this position but a one State with equal rights is a theoretical possibility that many of good conscience, both Jews and Palestinians, support.
Israeli Jews have no interest in being governed by an entity with values that are important and pallatable to the Palestinians and (I'm sure) vice-versa.
Two states is the only solution.