@contenchess saidMaybe the US shouldn’t be entering so many wars.
More likely from a war they aren't allowed to win.
Korea, Vietnam, The wars in the Middle East.
Soldiers need to win and after WW2 they were told they can't kill everyone and everything.
Thus, they can't win.
Wars should be fought to conquer and destroy everyone and then you take the country.
Soldiers today are not allowed to do that so they fought for nothing.
That's why we see so many soldier suicides and endless wars that achieve nothing.
And, I think you will find, that a great many WW1 and WW2 veterans suffered from PTSD as well.
PTSD didn’t become a thing until the early 80’s. Before then it was called battle fatigue, shell shock, combat stress reaction, etc.
I’ve read figures ranging from 10% to 40% of WW2 veterans would nowadays be diagnosed with PTSD.
It’s not down to winning or losing. It’s about being exposed to life-threatening stress over a long period of time. Think weeks, not months or years.
Acting heroically and/ or understanding what causes PTSD can minimise PTSD, but the body reacts to stress and after a while, it is no longer controllable.
It isn’t normal to see bits of bodies strewn and rotting. It isn’t normal to feel and hear bombs exploding. It isn’t normal to comprehend that a road side bomb could go off any second as you drive along.
No matter who wins that war.
@Executioner-Brand
Was this meant for me? I never mentioned remembering or not remembering.
Remembering is ALWAYS better IMO.
Not rewriting history is a good thing.
@shavixmir
Boy ain't that the truth. I came close to such bombing, very traumatic I can tell you.
I worked up north in Thailand during the Vietnam era and the Thai AF launched a bombing raid on some enemy position just across the Mekong and we were woken up at 5 AM with this incredible bombing, so loud I thought WE were being bombed.
But it was across the river into Laos. It was close enough to see the bombs falling from the jets and seeing copter's shooting tracer rounds looking like a sci fi death beam which of course for those on the ground it was.
Very frightful day.
@Executioner-Brand
I was talking about rewriting history of wars where the winner gets to rewrite the history books.
But we still have would be rewriters, like the holocaust deniers and the like, and climate change deniers, all designed to keep governments from having to actually accomplish something, something that hasn't happened in the four years of Trump time.
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@shavixmir saidEXACTLY....While modern medicine is credited
Maybe the US shouldn’t be entering so many wars.
And, I think you will find, that a great many WW1 and WW2 veterans suffered from PTSD as well.
PTSD didn’t become a thing until the early 80’s. Before then it was called battle fatigue, shell shock, combat stress reaction, etc.
I’ve read figures ranging from 10% to 40% of WW2 veterans would nowadays be diagnosed with ...[text shortened]... nd that a road side bomb could go off any second as you drive along.
No matter who wins that war.
with saving more lives of battlefield casualties,
have the mental and psychological 'cures' kept pace?
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@dood111 said..............You must be a genius, Doo!
Things are tough all over sweet pea, it's not a perfect world.
Ain't no magic wand to fix people driven combat trauma crazy.
You're running your pie hole about
a subject that I am familiar with.....You see combat too?
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@sonhouse said......Yeah, I remember mortars coming into
@shavixmir
Boy ain't that the truth. I came close to such bombing, very traumatic I can tell you.
I worked up north in Thailand during the Vietnam era and the Thai AF launched a bombing raid on some enemy position just across the Mekong and we were woken up at 5 AM with this incredible bombing, so loud I thought WE were being bombed.
But it was across the river into Lao ...[text shortened]... king like a sci fi death beam which of course for those on the ground it was.
Very frightful day.
Da Nang Airbase....Anyone who says that they
weren't terrified is lying-!
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@executioner-brand saidDuh, I think that was WWII.
@sonhouse Not rewriting history is a good thing.
yeah the atomic bomb put paid to that.
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@contenchess said..........Hate is a strong word,
@jimm619
I still hate you 😐
you know like, ''We hate Donald Trump''
@jimm619
I worked at a Thai search and rescue air base called NKP close to the Mekong river, my job was maintaining microwave comm equipment.
One day a Thai army dude came up to me and said we have to go to bunkers, and just as he said that an Arvin started up with his 50 caliber shooting up the place.
THAT was frightening I can tell you. So I hunkered down in the bunker while the Thai army dealt with that dude. Didn't take long either🙂
We have been in so many WORTHLESS rotten wars, eh. Viet Nam, Iraq, the list just goes on, eh.
You know, I was thinking about these wars and remembered reading about Ho chi Min and in 1953 he asked for military help from the US to defeat a repressive regime.
I just wonder what it would be like now if he had actually helped him back then and no Vietnam war, 50000 American soldiers still alive, and over a MILLION Vietnamese would still be alive.
That could be an alternate universe movie, eh.