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@shavixmir saidExactly.
trump is going to give all the territory Russia is standing on in Ukraine to Russia, to cement a peace deal.
Funny how everyone opposes Chamberlain’s appeasement, but now seem perfectly fine going down that route.
@divegeester saidAgain, does it hit you too close to home?
Again…
Neither the US nor the UK nor any other NATO country has declared war on Russia in the 1000 days this has been going on. Furthermore Russia has only invaded on country one only part of it. Your comparison with 1939 is lazy.
Appeasement solves nothing, it only delays it.
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@shavixmir saidInstead let’s waste countless billions for another 1000 days and achieve nothing.
trump is going to give all the territory Russia is standing on in Ukraine to Russia, to cement a peace deal.
Funny how everyone opposes Chamberlain’s appeasement, but now seem perfectly fine going down that route.
What’s the endgame?
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@divegeester saidWhat I think the end game should be? Or what the West is aiming for? Or what the Russians want?
Instead let’s waste countless billions for another 1000 days and achieve nothing.
What’s the endgame?
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@divegeester saidI'm only going to say this once, so listen to me.
Delays what?
No one has declared war on Russia, what’s the endgame?
Russia was the aggressor. They invaded a neighboring sovereign state. A neighboring sovereign state that they agreed to not be aggressive to, to get them to turn over their nuclear weapons.
Why aren't you against Russia's war of aggression and simultaneously seem satisfied to be against Ukraine's war of survival? What is wrong with you?
You're a Trump man, aren't you? You've totally bought into the con. Just admit it and stop wasting my time.
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I read this morning that Biden has now also approved the use of US made anti personal mines to target Russian ground troops.
Less than two months remaining of this lunatic being in power and he’s determined to kick it all off before he goes.
What’s next on his firework list I wonder!
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@Suzianne saidWe are a 1000 days in, what’s the endgame?
Russia was the aggressor. They invaded a neighboring sovereign state. A neighboring sovereign state that they agreed to not be aggressive to, to get them to turn over their nuclear weapons.
“ Russia is the aggressor” … You talk of “appeasement” but why hasn’t any other country declared war on Russia?
Why is Biden suddenly escalating things now?
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@shavixmir saidWhat’s the West’s plan ?
What I think the end game should be? Or what the West is aiming for? Or what the Russians want?
Do you see a plan?
Why is Biden rapidly escalating the conflict now?
@shavixmir saidTrump asked Putin to not escalate the war. Putin responded by bombing the crap out of Ukraine's infrastructure giving Trump the middle finger. Trump says he will end the war but he has no control over it as the Russians have said.
Yes. Poking the bear is rather risky.
I note that Putin has had the Russian laws changed about when a nuclear attack is legitimate.
Good news everybody!
What Biden is doing looks like a last ditch attempt to help Ukraine get some of its land back, before trump comes along and gives everything Russia is standing on to Putin.
Your Trump likes Russia narrative is a falsehood. It is pure propaganda.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/who-really-profits-ukraine-war
Alex Soros said it was great news. He is a dick. He is all up in Ukraine's butt.
Soros wants WW3. He cannot hide how much he wants it.
https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/newsroom/the-open-society-foundations-in-ukraine
52% of Ukrainians want peace talks to end the war with Russia.
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@divegeester saidThe West wants to drain Russia’s resources.
What’s the West’s plan ?
Do you see a plan?
Why is Biden rapidly escalating the conflict now?
Basically warning Russia and China that any form of expansion will drain the treasury.
As I’ve stated earlier in this thread, trump is going to force Ukraine to make a peace deal and Russia will be allowed to keep the land they’ve already invaded (that’s his plan anyways).
So, Biden wants to minimise the impact on Ukraine of such a decision.