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  1. Zugzwang
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    07 Aug '18 19:43
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/04/rouhanicare-iran-president-unsung-domestic-success-healthcare-hassan-rouhani

    "Rouhanicare: Iranian president's unsung domestic success
    Healthcare plan has given coverage to millions previous unable to
    afford a doctor, but concern remains about long-term costs."

    "In the course of the past three years, Rouhani’s health ministry has insured
    nearly 11 million Iranians, meaning that those who were not previously
    covered, like the unemployed or the poor, are now protected."

    "Despite the scheme’s success and popularity, it has not been without
    its problems. It is expensive – Rouhanicare costs about £770m a year,
    while other major health reforms, such as introducing a referral system and
    family physicians, means the annual healthcare bill is three times that figure.
    Rouhanicare’s funding comes from 1% of Iran’s 9% VAT rate and 10%
    of reserves saved through cut in subsidies."

    "Most people using the government’s salamat insurance scheme contribute 6%
    of their overall treatment costs, and pay between 10% to 30% towards
    the costs of most drugs required for their care. Those assessed as
    unable to afford such payments are not charged."
  2. Zugzwang
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    07 Aug '18 19:481 edit
    US economic sanctions are harming health care in Iran.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/a-matter-of-life-and-death-iranians-despair-as-us-sanctions-bite#img-1

    "'A matter of life and death': Iranians despair as US sanctions bite"

    “The price of a lot of medicines has already soared, some have become scarce to find,
    others are not covered by insurance and are difficult to purchase, It’s no more only about
    shortages in drugs for cancer or special diseases such as haemophilia or thalassemia,
    but also normal drugs that were abundant in Iran previously, A normal drug like Warfarin,
    which stops blood clotting, is becoming difficult to find, which means patients’ lives are at
    risk if we as doctors can’t get these medicines. Another example is Amlodipine, which is
    for treatment of blood pressure. Amlodipine is produced internally but companies have
    problems with importing its ingredients due to banking restrictions or other sanctions."
    --Dr Sanaz (27 year old woman)
  3. Subscribergumbie
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    Totally lost
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    07 Aug '18 20:19
    Do you work for the guardian?
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    08 Aug '18 16:12
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/04/rouhanicare-iran-president-unsung-domestic-success-healthcare-hassan-rouhani

    "Rouhanicare: Iranian president's unsung domestic success
    Healthcare plan has given coverage to millions previous unable to
    afford a doctor, but concern remains about long-term costs."

    "In the course of the past three years, ...[text shortened]... gs required for their care. Those assessed as
    unable to afford such payments are not charged."
    so if the Iranian soldiers shoot you up in the streets they will treat your wounds...how nice.
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    08 Aug '18 16:21
    Yes, the Iranian health care system is the best.

    Thanks for that. 😵
  6. Standard membershavixmir
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    08 Aug '18 16:42
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    so if the Iranian soldiers shoot you up in the streets they will treat your wounds...how nice.
    You are a moron.

    When was the last time Iran invaded a country?
    When was the last time the US invaded a country?

    Who’s soldiers are more likely to shoot you?

    There you go.
  7. Standard membershavixmir
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    08 Aug '18 16:42
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Yes, the Iranian health care system is the best.

    Thanks for that. 😵
    It’s better than the US’s.

    Moron.
  8. Zugzwang
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    08 Aug '18 19:371 edit
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/08/iran-sanctions-donald-trump-morally-wrong

    "Sanctions on Iran are morally wrong – and they won’t work
    There is no justification for the US action. All sanctions will do is cause suffering for innocent people."
    --Afua Hirsch

    "Sanctions are so common a tactic now that we question their utility but rarely their morality.
    Take Obama, for example, who imposed sanctions on Iran between 2010 and 2012, that
    – like this new round for 2018 – severely penalised Iranian companies and isolated the
    country from the international financial system."

    "“Smart” branding sounds impressive but is often too good to be true. Under Obama’s
    sanctions, the percentage of Iranian families living in poverty almost doubled, millions
    were left without access to essential medical treatment, and child marriage – according
    to one measure – rose by a fifth, as struggling families pulled their girls out of school
    and married them off to alleviate extreme financial hardship. Sanctions that seem
    unrelated to innocent civilians often have unforeseen consequences, like the almost
    2,000 Iranians who have died in plane crashes since the country’s isolation from the
    international community began to limit access to spare parts.

    The moral argument for sanctions is a tough one. For them to have any chance of
    achieving their aim, which is usually regime change, they will inevitably result in the
    widespread suffering of ordinary people."

    "It hasn’t done this because these sanctions are more about US interests than they are
    about improving the lives of ordinary Iranians. This hardly comes as a surprise, but it
    could well fail on its own logic. While the US is alienating the Iranian people – who will
    bear the brunt of the widespread hardship, unrest, and economic turmoil – all the signs
    are that the regime will survive. Quite apart from the question of whether Iran actually
    did anything in violation of the JCPOA that would justify this new round of sanctions,
    these measures are likely to increase, not weaken, state control if the recent history of
    Obama-era sanctions are anything to go by."

    Even many Iranians critical of the Islamic Republic suspect that the USA's real long-term
    aim is to reinstate a client dictator (like the Shan) to rule Iran on behalf of the USA.
    I believe that few Iranians would willingly accept this outcome.

    With the avid support and encouragement of both Israel and Saudi Arabia, the USA's
    moving closer to initiating war against Iran.
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    08 Aug '18 19:42
    Originally posted by @shavixmir
    It’s better than the US’s.

    Moron.
    Yes, citizens in Iran are better off than those in the US

    Keep'em com'in! 😵
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