Healthcare ....

Originally posted by Melanerpes
So far, experience has shown the answer to be no.

even so, covering people worldwide would be incredibly costly, a very surreal suggestion anyway.

every country should take care of its own people in its own way, nobody should be forced to take care of the people from other countries simply because their government is too incompetent.

Originally posted by Melanerpes
a roof over everyone's head -- food in everyone's belly -- a job for everyone.

Do you believe America is so powerless or weak-willed that it can't find a way to reach these relatively modest goals?

The people yes, the government, no.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
That should be the goal.

But first lets start with the US.

I think it will be the next step headed by the UN..

Originally posted by Melanerpes
So far, experience has shown the answer to be no.

The same can be said of the government. After all, where is the Great Society LBJ promised? Where is the utopia in communist countries etc?

Originally posted by generalissimo
even so, covering people worldwide would be incredibly costly, a very surreal suggestion anyway.

every country should take care of its own people in its own way, nobody should be forced to take care of the people from other countries simply because their government is too incompetent.

Who cares about cost any more? After all, the US is going to double its debt of about $11 trillion very soon and all they do is try and tackle bigger and better entitlements. In fact, I'm not really sure 11 trillion is even a real number.

Edit: Does anyone know what comes after trillion?

Originally posted by whodey
Who cares about cost any more? After all, the US is going to double its debt of about $11 trillion very soon and all they do is try and tackle bigger and better entitlements. In fact, I'm not really sure 11 trillion is even a real number.

Edit: Does anyone know what comes after trillion?

so that is why the us doesn't have universal health care? because it is too poor? doesn't have the money?

here is food for the soul: take one aircraft carrier, and see what it costs everyday to keep it going, launch fighter jets thingies and generally look cool. now tell me how many americans could be given whatever medical procedure they might need but can't afford it because they don't make 6 figure salaries a year.

Originally posted by fatalinsomnia
I haven't read the link you posted, but I am very concerned about the prospect. In my state, we have health insurance for the low-income population, and I think it is definitely a good thing, even with its somewhat-massive shortcomings. However, a national health care plan worries me a bit, for too many reasons to go into right here. I don't know much ...[text shortened]... ng proposed, but in the very least I would wish for private practice not to be done away with.

The public option does not do away with private insurance.

Originally posted by generalissimo
whats wrong with leaving them to die in the streets?

the US system is working just fine, if you don't have money its just too bad, thats how it works.

Republican healthcare plan: don't get sick; and if you do get sick, then die quickly.

Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
The public option does not do away with private insurance.

Frankly, if it did, it would be fine with me.