last on BBC 2 there was a program about a couple who are both proufoundly deaf and who wanted a deaf child. as it happened, the child, after testing, appeared to also be deaf.
however, if it had been hearing would the parents -well- have loved it as much? or if they had another child who was hearing, would the first be somehow a favourite?
and i severirly doubt this child shall get what is best for him-the deaf community view cocklear (sp) implants (which significantly improve hearing, as do digital hearing aids) negatively, and meany do not wear hearing aids. instead, they prefer to use sign language.
so, should the government force these parents to do what is best for their child? children are forced to go to school to get an education. indeed, prison awaints parents who do not send their children to school. and yet a hearing child shall undoubtably be slow to develop speech, and a deaf child may not be able to hear until they are in their late teens!
Originally posted by genius
last on BBC 2 there was a program about a couple who are both proufoundly deaf and who wanted a deaf child. as it happened, the child, after testing, appeared to also be deaf.
however, if it had been hearing would the parents -well- have loved it as much? or if they had another child who was hearing, would the first be somehow a favourite?
and i severi ...[text shortened]... to develop speech, and a deaf child may not be able to hear until they are in their late teens!
Was the deaf child deaf "on delivery", a designer baby so to speak, or was the child expected to be deaf because its parents happen to posses the same condition ?
Originally posted by ivanhoeI should hope the latter! However far the culture of deaf has got in your eyes, it's still illegal to screen in favour of obviously unhelpful traits like deafness, though I think you can screen against them.
Was the deaf child deaf "on delivery", a designer baby so to speak, or was the child expected to be deaf because its parents happen to posses the same condition ?
If the parents really wanted a hearing child to be deaf, they could probably have given it earmuffs or something. But I don't think that would be such a good idea.
Originally posted by Acolyte
I should hope the latter! However far the culture of deaf has got in your eyes, it's still illegal to screen in favour of obviously unhelpful traits like deafness, though I think you can screen against them.
If the parents really wanted a hearing child to be deaf, they could probably have given it earmuffs or something. But I don't think that would be such a good idea.
Genius said it was on telly. So I guess a lot of people can give the answer to my question. I wanna be sure before I make some comment on this.
Originally posted by Acolytenope-twasn't a designer baby.
I should hope the latter! However far the culture of deaf has got in your eyes, it's still illegal to screen in favour of obviously unhelpful traits like deafness, though I think you can screen against them.
If the parents really wanted a hearing child to be deaf, they could probably have given it earmuffs or something. But I don't think that would be such a good idea.
and the child would still probbuly grow up as a deaf child, until it started school. but english would end up being it's second language-with BSL being it's first.
the programme was about a couple who were both deaf. The woman had been brought up in the deaf community as most of her family were also deaf. Her fiance had been brought up by his mother who had been told NOT TO learn to sign. As a child he had been sent to boarding school where they were also not allowed to sign. Result: A mother and child not being able to communicate. All this couple wanted was for there child not to go through the same so if the child. They stated that they would love the baby whether it was deaf or not.I totally agreed with their views ... What I did find pretty awful was the patronising manner in which the hospital staff spoke to them.
It's about time BSL was taught in schools to ALL children.
Originally posted by ivanhoethe latter ivanhoe. The programme highlighted how many people in society still use the medical and personal tragedy model re disabled people.
Was the deaf child deaf "on delivery", a designer baby so to speak, or was the child expected to be deaf because its parents happen to posses the same condition ?
genius: so, should the government force these parents to do what is best for their child? children are forced to go to school to get an education. indeed, prison awaints parents who do not send their children to school. and yet a hearing child shall undoubtably be slow to develop speech, and a deaf child may not be able to hear until they are in their late teens!
I'm not sure what you're saying. ? Of course the child will go to school...why wouldn't he?
Originally posted by wucky3a hearing child would still be able to communicate with it's parents-they'd teach it BSL. and the wife said that she didn't really care, but the husband cared with a passion...
the programme was about a couple who were both deaf. The woman had been brought up in the deaf community as most of her family were also deaf. Her fiance had been brought up by his mother who had been told NOT TO learn to sign. As a child he had been sent to boarding school where they were also not allowed to sign. Result: A mother and child not being able to ...[text shortened]... the hospital staff spoke to them.
It's about time BSL was taught in schools to ALL children.
and my point was that, pretty much our education system is forced upon us. parents are legally obliged to send their kids to school until they are 16 as the government feels that this is best for them.
they are not, however, obliged to get a digital hearing aid/cocklear implant for their child if he/she is deaf, which would significantly speed up a deaf childs education (if the parents are hearing. and even if they aren't it would still speed it up). and for deaf parents with a hearing child-well, should this child maybe not be made to interact with someone who is also hearing, so that they develop speech much earlier, and to a greater degree than otherwise.
There is a very good documentary film entitled "Sound and Fury" on this very subject. I believe in one of their trailers they add at the end,
"Captions for the Hearing" or something like that.
I recall that, while watching the film, I kept thinking of Antonio Buero Vallejo's brilliant play "En la ardiente oscuridad."