Originally posted by ivanhoeActually he didn't "warn them".
Sure, that's why he warned them.
It seems that the Lebanese government's political position has been strenghtened and Hezbollah's position weakened by the recent war in Lebanon.
Guess you missed this quote:
"Its role is to ensure the security of the resistance and citizens, to protect the victory of the resistance," Murr said referring to Islamic Resistance, the armed wing of Hezbollah.
Hezbollah is part of the Lebanese government so your statement is nonsensical. You're living in a dream world if you think Hezbollah's political position has been weakened by Israel's failure to defeat them.
Originally posted by no1marauderLink doesn't work either, marauder.
It was in a featured article on Yahoo yesterday; don't know why the URL doesn't work today. Anyway, the quotes have been reported elsewhere and along with the second quote given above (which answers Ivanhoe's question in part) supplies the proper context of the Defense Minister's comments.
EDIT: In yesterday's Jerusalem Post, for example:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525909513&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%
Originally posted by ivanhoeGoogle the words "will be considered by the military tribunal as an agent of the Israeli enemy" without the quotes - it's the first article that comes up. I have no idea why these links aren't working; I'm copying the address from the page.
Link doesn't work either, marauder.
Originally posted by no1marauderMarauder: "Hezbollah is part of the Lebanese government so your statement is nonsensical."
Actually he didn't "warn them".
Guess you missed this quote:
"Its role is to ensure the security of the resistance and citizens, to protect the victory of the resistance," Murr said referring to Islamic Resistance, the armed wing of Hezbollah.
Hezbollah is part of the Lebanese government so your statement is nonsens ...[text shortened]... ink Hezbollah's political position has been weakened by Israel's failure to defeat them.
Loool ..... here your reductionist formal reasoning shows his ugly face again. It'll lead you to these silly out of touch with reality conclusions.
Marauder: "You're living in a dream world if you think Hezbollah's political position has been weakened by Israel's failure to defeat them."
Wishful thinking marauder. W'll see how things will develop.
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Originally posted by no1marauderNo results. Give us the links, marauder.
Google the words "will be considered by the military tribunal as an agent of the Israeli enemy" without the quotes - it's the first article that comes up. I have no idea why these links aren't working; I'm copying the address from the page.
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Originally posted by ivanhoeWithout the quotes, Ivanhoe.
No results. Give us the links, marauder.
EDIT: Here's the entire article:
Lebanon: Army will deal with those who break ceasefire
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
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Lebanon's defense minister said Sunday any group breaking the cease-fire in southern Lebanon would be "decisively dealt with" and would be considered a traitor.
Defense Minister Elias Murr's comments apparently were to air concerns that factions other than Hizbullah, which he said is committed to the cease-fire, may attempt to draw Israeli retaliation by firing on the Jewish state.
"We consider that when the resistance (Hizbullah) is committed not to fire rockets, then any rocket that is fired from the Lebanese territory would be considered collaboration with Israel to provide a pretext (to Israel) to strike," he told a news conference at the Defense Ministry.
In the past, Palestinian radical guerrilla groups backed by Syria have fired rockets on Israel, but on a much smaller scale than the Hizbullah barrage during the 34-day war.
The Lebanese government, while supporting the Shiite Muslim Lebanese Hizbullah group, has rejected Palestinian attacks on Israel from Lebanon, which in the past invited two invasions. Lebanese troops have also thwarted a number of attempts to fire rockets on Israel by what authorities suspected were Palestinian guerrillas.
"The resistance (Hizbullah) is abiding (by the cease-fire), so any violation is in the interest of Israel and the Lebanese army will decisively deal with it," he said. Anyone arrested for violating the truce "will be considered by the military tribunal as an agent of the Israeli enemy and not just as a person who uses a weapon."
Earlier in the day, Lebanese Prime Minister also met with reporters to discuss the conflict.
Standing in the midst of the rubble of south Beirut on Sunday, Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora declared the Israeli bombing campaign "a crime against humanity."
Saniora was surrounded by a mob of reporters and television cameras and accompanied by Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri, a Hizbullah backer.
"What we see today is an image of the crimes Israel has committed ... there is no other description other than a criminal act that shows Israel's hatred to destroy Lebanon and its unity," he told reporters on a tour to south Beirut, which bore the brunt of the Israeli airstrikes that leveled neighborhoods.
"I hope the international media transmits this picture to every person in the world so that it shows this criminal act, this crime against humanity that Israel has committed in this area and every region of Lebanon," the Western-backed prime minister added.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525909513&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Originally posted by no1marauderMarauder: "Sounds like he's more worried about Israeli agent provocateurs than Hezbollah."
Without the quotes, Ivanhoe.
EDIT: Here's the entire article:
Lebanon: Army will deal with those who break ceasefire
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
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Lebanon's defense minister said Sunday any group breaking the cease-fire in southern Lebanon would b ...[text shortened]... .com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525909513&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Now please explain how you reached the above conclusion.
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Originally posted by ivanhoeBy reading these words:
Marauder: "Sounds like he's more worried about Israeli agent provocateurs than Hezbollah."
Now please explain how you reached the above conclusion.
"We consider that when the resistance (Hizbullah) is committed not to fire rockets, then any rocket that is fired from the Lebanese territory would be considered collaboration with Israel to provide a pretext (to Israel) to strike,"
And these words:
The resistance (Hizbullah) is abiding (by the cease-fire), so any violation is in the interest of Israel and the Lebanese army will decisively deal with it," he said. Anyone arrested for violating the truce "will be considered by the military tribunal as an agent of the Israeli enemy and not just as a person who uses a weapon."
Also note Sinoria's comments about Israel's crimes against humanity and the unity of Lebanon. Also note who is the Speaker of the Lebanese Parliament who accompanied the Prime Minister.
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More statements by Seniora that Hezbollah's position has been weakened:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3295251,00.html
'Hizbullah learned its lesson'
The Lebanese PM also told the newspaper he does not expect Hizbullah to drag Lebanon into a war again.
"I don't believe it can happen again," he said. "I don't think Hizbullah is in the same position where it was before the war, and won't be able to repeat what it did. It learned the lesson from what happened."