Originally posted by robbie carrobiethat IS being innocent, doofus.
She was not found innocent. All Mr Comey stated was that the FBI;s position had not changed, that being that they found no evidence of intent, that does not prove that Mrs Clinton is innocent because for that to happen she would need to go to trial.
Originally posted by ZahlanziNo its not. She was not found innocent by anyone and if you don't know the difference then I suggest that you ask someone for help. Please note the title, 'Hillary found innocent'. For her to be 'found innocent', she would need to go to trial, which she has not. Someone with your scant powers of discernment and negligible grasp of reality should not be terming anyone doofus.
that IS being innocent, doofus.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieyou don't find someone innocent. they are innocent until proven guilty.
No its not. She was not found innocent by anyone and if you don't know the difference then I suggest that you ask someone for help. Please note the title, 'Hillary found innocent'. For her to be 'found innocent', she would need to go to trial, which she has not. Someone with your scant powers of discernment and negligible grasp of reality should not be terming anyone doofus.
your opinion on her is a different matter and one i give 0 lovings about.
" Please note the title, 'Hillary found innocent'."
the title is wrong. it's either sarcasm or not knowing a basic principle of civilized society but wrong nonetheless.
" For her to be 'found innocent', she would need to go to trial, which she has not"
nope. for her to be found guilty she would need to go to trial. there's a difference. she is innocent now, she doesn't need a trial to prove she is innocent.
Originally posted by ZahlanziYou seem to be talking a lot but not saying anything. Only a court of law can find you either guilty or innocent. Why this simple fact evades you I cannot say.
you don't find someone innocent. they are innocent until proven guilty.
your opinion on her is a different matter and one i give 0 lovings about.
" Please note the title, 'Hillary found innocent'."
the title is wrong. it's either sarcasm or not knowing a basic principle of civilized society but wrong nonetheless.
" For her to be 'found innoce ...[text shortened]... . there's a difference. she is innocent now, she doesn't need a trial to prove she is innocent.
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Originally posted by apathistNo one is questioning whether presumption of innocence is a legal right. Fine for Mrs Clinton to be acquitted (found not guilty) she would need to face trail which she has not. There is a third scenario according to Scots law, that being not proven.
Presumption of innocence is legal right.
Courts either find the accused to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, or the accused is to be acquitted. Courts never find the accused to be innocent.
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Originally posted by ZahlanziZahlanzi and Robbie: Gentlemen, Before things get too heated here, perhaps it would be best to get some input from the more "learned ones" on this site such as no1marauder or SH76. I think these two are more qualified to decide if Hillary Clinton is innocent or not. 🙂
that IS being innocent, doofus.
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Originally posted by mchillApathist's post sums it up succinctly; people don't get found innocent in our legal system so the title of the thread is incorrect.
Zahlanzi and Robbie: Gentlemen, Before things get too heated here, perhaps it would be best to get some input from the more "learned ones" on this site such as no1marauder or SH76. I think these two are more qualified to decide if Hillary Clinton is innocent or not. 🙂
The FBI found in July that there was insufficient evidence to charge HRC with any crime in the e-mail molehill and I am in agreement with that finding as are the vast majority of legal experts I have read who have commented on the case. Some are here: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-legal-idUSKCN0ZM04C
Originally posted by mchillit doesn't take a lawyer to realize that civilized societies hold that you are innocent until proven guilty. if you are already innocent, how can you be proven so again?
Zahlanzi and Robbie: Gentlemen, Before things get too heated here, perhaps it would be best to get some input from the more "learned ones" on this site such as no1marauder or SH76. I think these two are more qualified to decide if Hillary Clinton is innocent or not. 🙂
it won't get more heated because there is absolutely no fun in constantly smacking robbie over the head with common sense.