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  1. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    26 Mar '10 13:21
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8588294.stm

    The Vatican has attacked the media over charges that
    the Pope failed to act against a US priest accused of abusing
    up to 200 deaf boys two decades ago.


    -

    The latest allegations stem from the US, after it emerged
    that Archbishops had complained in 1996 about a priest, Fr Lawrence
    Murphy. Their complaints went to a Vatican office led by the future
    Pope Benedict XVI, but apparently received no response.


    ...

    So, let me get this straight. Without saying anything else but
    "conspiracy!" or "it is not truth", i.e. without giving any rational
    explanation, these Stone Age bastards are trying to counter a very
    simple equation: guy complains then Ratzinger does nothing.

    No brainer, right?

    ...

    BONUS to whomever can answer: Why Catholic priests are
    known as "rock spiders"?
  2. Standard member adam warlock
    Baby Gauss
    26 Mar '10 13:25 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Seitse
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8588294.stm

    The Vatican has attacked the media over charges that
    the Pope failed to act against a US priest accused of abusing
    up to 200 deaf boys two decades ago.


    -

    The latest allegations stem from the US, after it emerged
    that Archbishops had complained in 1996 about a priest, Fr Lawrence
    Murphy. ...[text shortened]...

    ...

    BONUS to whomever can answer: Why Catholic priests are
    known as "rock spiders"?
    The simplest way of dismissing something you don't like and/or don't agree to is to label it as conspiracy theory.

    The Catholic Church has perfected this debating technique to an art form.

    Why rock spiders?
  3. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    26 Mar '10 13:28
    Originally posted by adam warlock
    Why rock spiders?
    Because they like getting into little cracks.

    Dang!
  4. Standard member adam warlock
    Baby Gauss
    26 Mar '10 13:30
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Because they like getting into little cracks.

    Dang!
    Teh lulz!
  5. Standard member joneschr
    Some guy
    26 Mar '10 14:47
    Ew
  6. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    27 Mar '10 14:47
    Originally posted by adam warlock
    Teh lulz!
  7. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    27 Mar '10 14:49
    Don't popes just have to die? I can't recall one resigning.
  8. Standard member DrKF
    incipit parodia
    27 Mar '10 15:20
    Originally posted by FMF
    Don't popes just have to die? I can't recall one resigning.
    The only occasion of a Pope abdicating was in 1296, but I believe all a Pope has to do is 'resign' and that's that. Not that he will, of course.
  9. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    27 Mar '10 15:26
    Originally posted by DrKF
    The only occasion of a Pope abdicating was in 1296
    That's right. He wanted to spend more time with his family, as I recall.
  10. Standard member DrKF
    incipit parodia
    27 Mar '10 15:52
    Originally posted by FMF
    That's right. He wanted to spend more time with his family, as I recall.
    The little ones grow up so fast...
  11. Standard member DrKF
    incipit parodia
    28 Mar '10 09:24 / 1 edit
    Ireland, the US and Germany - now it seems Italy itself might have its own wave of revelations of paedophilia and attempts by the Vatican to cover them up. Hundreds of cases are ready to take to court (and, if the pattern of the other countries above is followed, many, many more may emerge after the initial surge). We can probably leave aside as singularly potty the suggestion by Cardinal Jose Saraiva Martins that the conspiracy here is a 'well-organised plan, with a clear aim' against the Catholic church.

    But God moves in mysterious ways. Before he became Pope, Ratzinger predicted that the Catholic church would be better off in its decrepitude and senility... sorry, would be better off smaller and less powerful geoploitically but doctrinally sound to the point of blind loyalty and asceticism. The inability of the Vatican to accept an iota of responsibility for shuffling priests between dioscese when they were caught molesting children ought to sort out the true believers from the fellow-travellers.
  12. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    28 Mar '10 09:45
    Revelation 17:1-6 (New International Version)

    1One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to
    me, "Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who
    sits on many waters.

    2With her the kings of the earth committed adultery
    and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her
    adulteries."

    3Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a desert. There I
    saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous
    names and had seven heads and ten horns. 4The woman was dressed in
    purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls.
    She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the
    filth of her adulteries.

    5 This title was written on her forehead:
    MYSTERY
    BABYLON THE GREAT
    THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES
    AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

    6 I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood
    of those who bore testimony to Jesus.
  13. 28 Mar '10 10:02
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Revelation 17:1-6 (New International Version)

    1One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to
    me, "Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who
    sits on many waters.

    2With her the kings of the earth committed adultery
    and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her
    adulteries."

    ...[text shortened]... was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood
    of those who bore testimony to Jesus.
    what are you saying Seitse?
  14. 28 Mar '10 12:22
    Originally posted by Seitse
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8588294.stm

    The Vatican has attacked the media over charges that
    the Pope failed to act against a US priest accused of abusing
    up to 200 deaf boys two decades ago.


    -

    [i]The latest allegations stem from the US, after it emerged
    that Archbishops had complained in 1996 about a priest, Fr Lawrence
    Murphy. ...[text shortened]...
    ...

    BONUS to whomever can answer: Why Catholic priests are
    known as "rock spiders"?
    Of coure, I think you will join with me and condemn Obama's new safe schools czar Kevin Jennings. So what did he do, you may ask? As a school teacher he admittedly helped along a pediphile have a sexual relationship with a 15 year old student. He advised the student to "wear a condom" and let things continue.

    Oops, wrong side of the political isle. My bad. Carry on!!
  15. 28 Mar '10 12:24
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    what are you saying Seitse?
    I think he is saying he abhors pediphiles and those who make excuses for them, NO MATTER who they may be. He gives no preferences to them in an equal oppurtunity fashion. Isn't that right Seitse?