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Did anyone here about this? Apparently California has banned homeschools unless the teacher has a teaching license. If not, the minor must either attend public or private schools. I thought that all home schooled students had to take annual profeciency tests to assess if they are being taught what they need to learn. If so, why is this not good enough for the left coast?

Edit: I heard the fascist.....er.....um......progressive courts in California have just ruled on this. Oh hail Big Brother. Show us the way!!!

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All holders of a competitive advantage push the government to make laws in order to increase the barriers of entrance to their industry or market, in order to create an artificial monopoly.

Should homeschooling be outlawed, private schools would obtain more clients... er... I meant... students.

It will be outlawed soon. Be patient.

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Originally posted by whodey
Did anyone here about this? Apparently California has banned homeschools unless the teacher has a teaching license. If not, the minor must either attend public or private schools. I thought that all home schooled students had to take annual profeciency tests to assess if they are being taught what they need to learn. If so, why is this not good enough fo ...[text shortened]... gressive courts in California have just ruled on this. Oh hail Big Brother. Show us the way!!!
Totally unnecessary. A student can be tested to measure his capability. Whether one is educated in public school, private school, home schooled, or self-taught makes absolutely no difference.

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Originally posted by Seitse
All holders of a competitive advantage push the government to make laws in order to increase the barriers of entrance to their industry or market, in order to create an artificial monopoly.

Should homeschooling be outlawed, private schools would obtain more clients... er... I meant... students.

It will be outlawed soon. Be patient.
Which is why governments should be prohibited from interfering in all but a few, carefully circumscribed ares.

Seitse, your comment would make Milton Friedman proud.

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How difficult is it to get a teaching license?

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Originally posted by whodey
Did anyone here about this? Apparently California has banned homeschools unless the teacher has a teaching license. If not, the minor must either attend public or private schools. I thought that all home schooled students had to take annual profeciency tests to assess if they are being taught what they need to learn. If so, why is this not good enough fo ...[text shortened]... gressive courts in California have just ruled on this. Oh hail Big Brother. Show us the way!!!
I'm not particularly in favor of this, but it is convenient. Just that little bit more need for me as an educator!

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Originally posted by badmoon
How difficult is it to get a teaching license?
You need a Bachlor's degree, take some tests, and take some additional classes (unless your degree's in education I guess).

I see Seitse's beat me to the punch about the convenience. Well, if I had any say, I'd have opposed this.

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It does seem consistent with mandatory education. After all, it's not that homeschooling is illegal; it's that you have to be an accredited teacher to do it.

I'm not particularly in favor of mandatory education.

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Originally posted by whodey
Did anyone here about this? Apparently California has banned homeschools unless the teacher has a teaching license. If not, the minor must either attend public or private schools. I thought that all home schooled students had to take annual profeciency tests to assess if they are being taught what they need to learn. If so, why is this not good enough fo ...[text shortened]... gressive courts in California have just ruled on this. Oh hail Big Brother. Show us the way!!!
Well I can't say that I totally agree with the ruling. Whodey you probably remember that I have always been against homeschooling except under very special circumstances. Nevertheless, people should probably have the right to homeschool.

Some things to consider about proficiency tests. First, they are extremely easy. Most kids shouldn't have trouble getting past that. A bigger test is how easily that get into college. While homeschooling sites like to tout the stories a couple of homeschooled kids who stand each year (e.g., 1600 SAT, accepted to an elite university, or won a spelling bee), most of these kids have a hard time moving up to the college level. My wife works in admissions at an elite public university. Every year she notices that homeschooled kids have a hard time getting in because it's very difficult for the college to measure the quality of their curriculum or the strength of the student within the curriculum. In a place where your average student has taken several AP exams, received near straight A's, and been in the top 10% of their high school class, a student with a transcript that is questionable struggles. Just an FYI for the young creationists parents out there, one of the big issues is science education. I thought California had already mandated certain science standards for homeschooled kids who want to enter one of the public universities.

Gotta run . . . more later.

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Originally posted by spruce112358
Seitse, your comment would make Milton Friedman proud.
spruce112358, your comment would make Seitse proud.

All purveyors of European irony are secretly delighted when Americans get the wrong end of the stick.

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Maybe they're trying to end the process of students whose parents claim they're being homeschooled but they're either being unschooled, locked in a closet, or the parents can't be bothered to get the kid to school and so claims they're being homeschooled. I know a lot of states claim to require annual testing and I know the homeschooling parents I've known personally have never done the testing.

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Originally posted by pawnhandler
Maybe they're trying to end the process of students whose parents claim they're being homeschooled but they're either being unschooled, locked in a closet, or the parents can't be bothered to get the kid to school and so claims they're being homeschooled. I know a lot of states claim to require annual testing and I know the homeschooling parents I've known personally have never done the testing.
Plus in a lot of homeschooling the kid basically teaches himself. It's essentially what kids in public or private schools would call 'homework.'

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Originally posted by whodey
Did anyone here about this? Apparently California has banned homeschools unless the teacher has a teaching license. If not, the minor must either attend public or private schools. I thought that all home schooled students had to take annual profeciency tests to assess if they are being taught what they need to learn. If so, why is this not good enough fo ...[text shortened]... gressive courts in California have just ruled on this. Oh hail Big Brother. Show us the way!!!
Well we wouldn't want those home schoole student showing up the illiterate public school student now would we?

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Originally posted by whodey
Did anyone here about this? Apparently California has banned homeschools unless the teacher has a teaching license. If not, the minor must either attend public or private schools. I thought that all home schooled students had to take annual profeciency tests to assess if they are being taught what they need to learn. If so, why is this not good enough fo ...[text shortened]... gressive courts in California have just ruled on this. Oh hail Big Brother. Show us the way!!!
Why would you home school a kid?
How does one insure social skills are practised?

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Originally posted by FMF
spruce112358, your comment would make Seitse proud.

All purveyors of European irony are secretly delighted when Americans get the wrong end of the stick.
Do not stain my mask of friendship and neutrality! 😠

Can't you see that I am trying to mock another American here? I have a quota to fulfill, you see? Like everybody else here in Europe, I belong to the "Let's Be Happy When the U.S. Suffers" Association. Gosh!

Look, I will pretend that you are just another Pole who is bitter because the Union did not result in your wealth dreams come true.

Paranoid.

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