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Honest question about Covid

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@sh76 said
Vaccines are great. Mask mandates are essentially useless (looks at mask-mandated New York City's nation-leading Omicron surge). Lockdowns aren't happening anywhere (unless you call school closures lockdowns, in which case they're happening in a handful of places, but also have almost no effect on COVID spread).

Vaccines certainly help, but given that 99.7% of people who get ...[text shortened]... 3-day cold. That difference is hard to quantify, but it's a good enough reason for me to vaccinate.
Or maybe without the vax you'll have permanent respiratory damage but survive.


@vivify said
Regardless of politics, if one group of people frequently do the exact opposite of what medical experts tell them during a pandemic, you could expect that group to be more affected, right?

Given the highly contagious nature of Covid, you'd a expect a huge difference in deaths between groups who follow medical experts and groups who frequently disregard them. But then again, I doubt hospitals are asking for political affiliation when someone is rushed to the hospital.
Virusses tend to spread faster and easier in crowded places. So, large cities will tend to have higher rates of infection than rural areas.

Other than that, these are the stats for US corona-related deaths:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Mississippi and Alabama have the highest death rates per 100 inhabitants.


Fact is that the proportion of deaths due to covid is much lower than most believe.

Almost everyone lives if they get covid even without a vaccine.

The small proportion of people who die are made poster children and the hysteria results.


@shavixmir said
Mississippi and Alabama have the highest death rates per 100 inhabitants.
And just by coincidence, they also have the highest obesity rates.


@sh76 said
And just by coincidence, they also have the highest obesity rates.
Obesity goes with diabetes in older Americans. Covid is simply killing off those in bad shape who do not make sure their vitamin levels are where they need to be.

Obesity is also linked to vitamin d deficiency.


@Eladar
I guess you will still be this flippant when the deaths go over one million.

800,000 dead is not enough to even raise an eyebrow for someone as worthless as you.


@sonhouse said
@Eladar
I guess you will still be this flippant when the deaths go over one million.

800,000 dead is not enough to even raise an eyebrow for someone as worthless as you.
One million out of how many?

Death is part of life, good luck escaping death.

Heart disease and cancer kill more people than covid. I am sure if you continue to count total deaths from a virus for enough years you will get a million.


@Eladar
So if we follow your "advice" we will all take D and live our lives and now the death count goes to TWO million.

I guess you would still have a flippant response.


@vivify said
Understood. But the anti-vax Metal Brains of world are mostly conservative.
I had covid last spring and I am still alive.
Perhaps you are over estimating how many people die from covid. It is a very small percentage.


@sonhouse said
@Eladar
So if we follow your "advice" we will all take D and live our lives and now the death count goes to TWO million.

I guess you would still have a flippant response.
Lol, ok old fool. Whatever you say.


@Earl-of-Trumps
And the fact that mandates follow the science and will result in less deaths means nothing to your so-called conservative "values''.


@eladar said
Fact is that the proportion of deaths due to covid is much lower than most believe.

Almost everyone lives if they get covid even without a vaccine.

The small proportion of people who die are made poster children and the hysteria results.
If so, why is EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY taking roughly the same sort of precautions, and measures. Why is EVERY SINGLE EXPERT (virologists, health centres, hospitals, etc.) all generating roughly the same sort of data?

Do you know how absurd you sound?

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@sh76 said
And just by coincidence, they also have the highest obesity rates.
Alabama and Mississippi also have the two lowest vaccination rates:

https://www.newsweek.com/these-5-states-have-lowest-vaccination-rates-highest-covid-cases-1615708

You've proven you know how to make sound arguments; so blaming their high Covid death rates on "obesity" seems like a deliberate attempt to mislead.


@shavixmir said
If so, why is EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY taking roughly the same sort of precautions, and measures. Why is EVERY SINGLE EXPERT (virologists, health centres, hospitals, etc.) all generating roughly the same sort of data?

Do you know how absurd you sound?
Every single government is tied to big pharm and run by corrupt paid off individuals. The experts are making money on the vaccines.


@eladar said
Every single government is tied to big pharm and run by corrupt paid off individuals. The experts are making money on the vaccines.
Save it for your conspiracy club.

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