@Rajk999 saidWell, the article in the OP was wrong, wasn't it?
Some info on Somalia. It is 99% muslim. The 1% are Christians, Hindus and others. From Wiki minority religious groups face persecution :
Islam has been a core part of Somali national identity for the entirety of its modern history. A 1961 constitution established Islam as the state religion, and later governments have maintained this policy. The Somali Democratic Re ...[text shortened]... who do not comply with these groups' interpretations of Islamic law are targeted for reprisals.
Somalia is a pretty unpleasant place for everybody these days due to a long lasting civil war, separatist movements and conflict with Ethiopia. There's no doubt it isn't very Christian friendly and it sucks at allowing religious freedom, but there's only about a 1000 Christians there.
Anyway the views of the government of Somalia (such as it is) is hardly definitive of the views of the majority of Muslims worldwide, no more than the views of the US government define what Christianity requires.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidLoads of reports like this all over the world. Anywhere Islam has control, they destroy the lives of people. As the initial post suggests, they cannot make their move suddenly. It is a gradual process, but the end is always the same.
Don't need to, this video speaks for itself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otN8QMPrgIs
Death, suffering and persecution. They destroy.
@Rajk999 saidWhy do you keep parroting such obvious BS?
Loads of reports like this all over the world. Anywhere Islam has control, they destroy the lives of people. As the initial post suggests, they cannot make their move suddenly. It is a gradual process, but the end is always the same.
Death, suffering and persecution. They destroy.
Did your non-existent Big Daddy God personally tell you to do so?
@no1marauder saidYou are missing the point. Nobody cares about what the silent majority, or peaceful majority of Muslims believe. How is that relevant.
Well, the article in the OP was wrong, wasn't it?
Somalia is a pretty unpleasant place for everybody these days due to a long lasting civil war, separatist movements and conflict with Ethiopia. There's no doubt it isn't very Christian friendly and it sucks at allowing religious freedom, but there's only about a 1000 Christians there.
Anyway the views of the governme ...[text shortened]... of Muslims worldwide, no more than the views of the US government define what Christianity requires.
The religion of Islam, encourages extremism. Innocent people are killed and abused and persecuted by the extremists.
@no1marauder saidYou are the man that justifying extremism by referencing the moderate and peaceful Muslim.
Why do you keep parroting such obvious BS?
Did your non-existent Big Daddy God personally tell you to do so?
You are the man claiming to have Muslim friends who are so nice, as if that excuses the action of ISIS, Hamas, AlQueda, BokoHaram .. and other muslim criminals.
People have posted volumes and volumes of reports on abuse at the hands of Islamic terrorists. There is no war like in Gaza. It is just killing and raping and abuse.
@Rajk999 saidFunny, most of the actual adherents to the religion (a silly one IMO as all ones with Big Daddy Gods are) aren't "extremists" and don't kill or abuse anyone nor support those who do.
You are missing the point. Nobody cares about what the silent majority, or peaceful majority of Muslims believe. How is that relevant.
The religion of Islam, encourages extremism. Innocent people are killed and abused and persecuted by the extremists.
So your idea of what the religion encourages is incorrect in their eyes.
Yes, that is quite relevant.
@Rajk999 saidNow you're just lying as you so often do about other people's views here.
You are the man that justifying extremism by referencing the moderate and peaceful Muslim.
You are the man claiming to have Muslim friends who are so nice, as if that excuses the action of ISIS, Hamas, AlQueda, BokoHaram .. and other muslim criminals.
People have posted volumes and volumes of reports on abuse at the hands of Islamic terrorists. There is no war like in Gaza. It is just killing and raping and abuse.
You'll never find me justifying terrorism, war crimes or violations of Natural Rights. You never have and you never will.
Islamic terrorists have a perverted view of the religion. You agree with some of their ideology like it is OK to slaughter innocents IF the ruling political body in that area does things you don't like (that's an Osama Bin Laden position you have adopted).
I don't.
@no1marauder saidAfghanistan: 14 killed in attack claimed by 'Islamic State'
Now you're just lying as you so often do about other people's views here.
You'll never find me justifying terrorism, war crimes or violations of Natural Rights. You never have and you never will.
Islamic terrorists have a perverted view of the religion. You agree with some of their ideology like it is OK to slaughter innocents IF the ruling political body in that area does things you don't like (that's an Osama Bin Laden position you have adopted).
I don't.
09/13/2024September 13, 2024
Followers of a religious minority have been targeted by extremists in Afghanistan. The so-called "Islamic State" extremist group claimed responsibility for the attack.
https://p.dw.com/p/4kaxW
Afghan security personnel stand guard at the Afghanistan-Pakistan border in Spin Boldak district, Kandahar province
The Taliban claimed to have largely crushed the IS, but the group regularly carries out attacks in Afghanistan
At least 14 people were killed and six wounded in an attack by unidentified gunmen in Afghanistan on Thursday night, a Taliban spokesperson said Friday without giving further details.
"While we share our deep sorrow with the innocent victims of the incident, we are also making serious efforts to search for the corrupt perpetrators of this act and bring them to justice," spokesperson Zabihullah Mujahid said in a statement.
What is known about the attack
According to the Afghan news channel Tolonews, the incident took place on the border between the central provinces of Daikundi and Ghur. Most people in that area are Shia Muslims and it was considered one of the safest provinces.
The victims had gathered to greet pilgrims returning from Karbala in Iraq, Tolonews said. Local Shiites went there about three weeks ago for the important religious festival of Arbain.
'Islamic State' claim responsibility
The so-called "Islamic State" (IS) terrorist group claimed responsibility for the attack. "Soldiers of the caliphate" had fired assault rifles "at a group of apostates," according to an IS statement broadcast on its usual propaganda channels.
IS considers Shiites to be apostates according to their extremist interpretation of Islam.
Islamic State-Khurasan, a local affiliate of the Middle East-based Islamic State, has waged an insurgency against the Taliban, whom they see as their enemies.
Although the Taliban promised greater security after taking power in August 2021 and also claimed to have largely crushed the group, IS regularly carries out attacks.
@no1marauder saidThe Persecution and Genocide of Christians in the Middle East
Funny, most of the actual adherents to the religion (a silly one IMO as all ones with Big Daddy Gods are) aren't "extremists" and don't kill or abuse anyone nor support those who do.
So your idea of what the religion encourages is incorrect in their eyes.
Yes, that is quite relevant.
In summer 2014, ISIS waged a bloody blitz through Iraq’s Nineveh province, crucifying, beheading, raping, torturing, forcibly converting to Islam, and driving out every member of the region’s 2000-year-old Christian community. Christian girls, as young as three, were sold at ISIS sex slave markets in Mosul. Ancient churches were burned and ISIS attacked dozens of Christian towns in Syria. The beheading in 2015 of 21 Egyptian Copts on a Libyan beach, who died with the Lord’s Prayer on their lips, was videotaped by ISIS and became a searing, iconic symbol of this wave of persecution that threatens to eradicate Christianity in the Middle East. Many in the West, even Christians, remain unaware of the scale of this persecution, and even fewer know what can be done about it.
Inspired by Pope Francis’s denunciation of these acts as “genocide,” a group of Catholic legal scholars, writers, and theologians began work on The Persecution and Genocide of Christians in the Middle East. Its case studies focus on persecuted Christians, but its analysis equally applies to the other victims. In the United States, military and diplomatic responses are contemplated and sometimes undertaken. But what about the legal system? Are there things we can or should be trying? That question animates this book as it explores various facets of religious persecution, examining ISIS’s ideology and its relationship to Islam as practiced by most Muslims. Practical, relevant, and rich in ideas, this book addresses the most crucial religious freedom issue of our day. It is a primer for Christians, students of international human rights, and all concerned about religious persecution.
https://www.avemarialaw.edu/the-persecution-and-genocide-of-christians-in-the-middle-east/
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@no1marauder saidWhen Muslims take over where you live, you will sing a different tune and stop defending them.
Well, the article in the OP was wrong, wasn't it?
Somalia is a pretty unpleasant place for everybody these days due to a long lasting civil war, separatist movements and conflict with Ethiopia. There's no doubt it isn't very Christian friendly and it sucks at allowing religious freedom, but there's only about a 1000 Christians there.
Anyway the views of the governme ...[text shortened]... of Muslims worldwide, no more than the views of the US government define what Christianity requires.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidI think he is a Muslim, so he wont mind. Notice all the so-called peaceful moderate muslims, never complain about muslim extremists. They accept them, and when outsiders call out their murderous ways, they band together and make excuses to justify the extremism
When Muslims take over where you live, you will sing a different tune and stop defending them.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidYeah so here is how the figures look :
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Yes, good point. They don't condemn what extremists do, they stay silent on them. Then they take to the streets in mass numbers and complain about how evil Western society is.
- 2,000,000,000 muslims in the world
- less than 5,000,000 of are the extremists
- thats 5 in every 2,000 or 0.25% are extremists.
Really is it true that this tiny % controlling the vast majority of muslims against their will? The answer is NO. It is not against their will at all.... because these peaceful muslims know what the violent murderous minority of extremists are doing. The minority extremists are following the Quran, and the majority are not following the Quran. So they are dumb when confronted with Sharia Law which is actually following the prophet Mohammed and the writers of the hadiths.
That explains their silence and their acceptance, and in the case of this site their excuses for Islamic extremism.
In addition, there are many cases where the extremists have called for death to people who insult Islam. Do the moderates and peaceful ones come out to stop them ... Noooooooooooo ... they come out to support the extremists and call for death to infidels..