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19 Aug 10
19 Aug 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungIf only it would disintegrate, then at least something positive could be salvaged from the whole situation - a secular, democratic and (relatively) liberal state of Kurdistan.
The last US combat troops have left Iraq. How long before Islamists take it over, or it discintigrates into three ethnic states etc?
Turkey will probably do its best to sabotage any such possibility, though.
19 Aug 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungIraq is too secular for Islamists to ever take over. It doesn't have much of a "democracy"; elections are held but then a government isn't formed. It looks like far more of a failed state now than Afghanistan was when the Taliban were the predominant faction, but it'll probably just stay a untidy mess rather than disintegrate.
The last US combat troops have left Iraq. How long before Islamists take it over, or it discintigrates into three ethnic states etc?
19 Aug 10
Originally posted by bbarrThere remains an agreement that requires ALL US troops to leave by December 31, 2011. That agreement is distasteful to the US military, but is overwhelmingly supported by the Iraqi people. It will be interesting to see if the power elites in the two countries can find a way to override the wishes of the people without triggering another mass uprising.
I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
19 Aug 10
Originally posted by Teinosukedis-integrate. Thx.
If only it would disintegrate, then at least something positive could be salvaged from the whole situation - a secular, democratic and (relatively) liberal state of Kurdistan.
Turkey will probably do its best to sabotage any such possibility, though.
20 Aug 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungIt's not all propaganda, but Gates himself admits on Meet the Press that U.S. troops will still be involved in security and in covert operations. Moreover, the number of "independent military contractors" in Iraq is set to double, on orders from the Pentagon.
@bbarr - Then what does this mean? Is it nothing but propaganda?
20 Aug 10
Originally posted by rwingettOnce again, these are not troops!!
There are still 50,000 US troops in Iraq.
To break these "security" personnel down further, there are 150,000 "cooks" (trained to cook to kill), 200.000 "plumbers" (with automatic plungers), and 300,000 "barbers". Just make sure you make it clear who's side your on when you sit down to get your bangs "trimmed". 😛
20 Aug 10
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungHow long will Iraq's Democracy last, you ask. Does anyone not agree the answer is: It will last only until the last external military forces depart. At that time, one 'strong-man' will userp power and Iraq will revert immediately to their form of totalitarianism, with which they seem to be most comfortable. After all it's what they do.
The last US combat troops have left Iraq. How long before Islamists take it over, or it discintigrates into three ethnic states etc?
Edit: Ditto for Afghanistan.
