@shavixmir saidWhy didn't you bring up the farmer protests in the Netherlands?
Did I rattle the 💩-bucket?
No, so crawl back to your trailer and masturbate into your momma’s knuckers, like the good little incel you are.
Why did you let me, an American, bring it up?
@metal-brain saidI couldn’t care less about them.
Why didn't you bring up the farmer protests in the Netherlands?
Why did you let me, an American, bring it up?
@shavixmir
The Trump news will inevitably die down if he goes to prison and the non-existent violent protests encouraged by Lindsey Graham Cracker never happens and WOMEN stop the death of the 200+ yearlong democracy experiment in the US.
Maybe things will go back to two parties willing to actually engage in debate again as opposed to the quagmire we are in now.
@averagejoe1 saidBritish journalist Ed West points out that endless reporting in UK media on American politics is a relatively recently phenomenon and that we should stop doing it:
Can you fault us? So shall we Americans write about what is going on in the little pipsqueak Finland, when we have Hell on our hands with Joe Biden?
I have never seen Finland mentioned in our news in the America. However I expect Europe is always reporting about America. I wonder why that is?
https://unherd.com/2022/06/stop-pretending-britain-is-america/
Here’s just one small example. When I heard Boris Johnson say that “the Roe v. Wade judgment, when it came out, was important psychologically for people around the world”, I decided to check. It’s hard to be sure, of course, but I’m pretty confident it wasn’t. Abortion had been legal in Britain since 1967, so why would anybody care about the US Supreme Court? The Times briefly reported the story on its front page, but that was it. The Guardian ran a slightly longer report, but there were no editorials, no exultant columns, no readers’ letters. Some other papers had a tiny news item, buried on an inside page. Most didn’t mention it at all. In Ted Heath’s Britain, it just wasn’t a story. Tell that to a BBC website editor in 2022, and they’d probably shake their heads in horror.
Does all this matter? I think it does. Obviously we can’t live in a national bubble: our public discourse has always been influenced by trends and events overseas [...]. But the intense and growing obsession with America isn’t just a curious Anglophone quirk. It’s a poison infecting our public life.
Almost everything about political life in the US today strikes me as deeply unhealthy. The general tone [...] is relentlessly hysterical. The stakes are always sky-high; every setback is a shattering defeat. Death and despair stalk the land; the very existence of the Republic hangs by a thread, and the world of The Handmaid’s Tale may be only a few years away. And your political opponents are not merely misguided, they are positively wicked. Evil conspirators — militiamen, abortionists, gunowners, critical race theorists — are plotting subversion and civil war. How can you compromise with such people? How can there be a common ground?
But Britain isn’t America. Why would we want to import their hysterical tone? We have plenty of issues of our own, of course; but they’re ours, not theirs. Our race relations aren’t perfect, but they’re among the very best in Europe, not that you’d know it from much of the media. Boris Johnson really, really isn’t a fascist, and the worst thing you can say about Keir Starmer is that he’s incredibly boring. And yes, we do take “the right to abortion, contraception, gay rights and same-sex marriage” for granted. But why wouldn’t we? Who’s threatening them? Does anybody seriously think Boris Johnson, of all people, is going to abolish contraception?
Don’t get me wrong. It’s not that I don’t think the Roe v. Wade judgement matters. It does, but it matters for Americans. Sometimes things just aren’t about us. “You think what you see in America couldn’t happen here?” Yes, I do, actually. Let’s see who’s right.
@teinosuke saidOnly in America could a carnival barker con man ascend to the highest office in the land.
British journalist Ed West points out that endless reporting in UK media on American politics is a relatively recently phenomenon and that we should stop doing it:
https://unherd.com/2022/06/stop-pretending-britain-is-america/
Here’s just one small example. When I heard Boris Johnson say that “the Roe v. Wade judgment, when it came out, was important psychologicall ...[text shortened]... think what you see in America couldn’t happen here?” Yes, I do, actually. Let’s see who’s right.
Be very glad that 50% of your population isn't so intellectually challenged as to fall for the lies of the biggest narcissist the world has ever seen.
America is going to take at least fifty years to get completely over the damage caused by Donald Trump. That is, unless his ego pushes us into another civil war first.
@suzianne saidUnfortunately that's not really true - Boris Johnson is also a monstrous narcissist who is unembarrassed to be caught lying and has done his best to destroy the norms and principles by which we used to live.
Only in America could a carnival barker con man ascend to the highest office in the land.
Be very glad that 50% of your population isn't so intellectually challenged as to fall for the lies of the biggest narcissist the world has ever seen.
And there are parallel figures elsewhere: Silvio Berlusconi was perhaps the first such conman to attain power in a developed country - in the late twentieth and early twenty-first century. Lorenzo Newman writes:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/04/the-similarities-between-trump-and-berlusconi-are-much-deeper-than-you-think.html
The superficial personal similarities between Donald Trump and former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi are obvious. Both grew their fortunes on allegedly mafia-linked real-estate developments, transitioned into successful careers as media moguls, and, against all odds, ascended to the helm of their respective national governments. Then there’s the common penchant for vitriol, misogyny, philandry, aggressive tanning, and pompous neckwear.
What Americans should actually be paying attention to is their eerily similar effect on the political culture of their respective countries.
Twenty years before Trump did the same in the United States, Berlusconi, who served four nonconsecutive terms for a total of nine years between 1994 and 2011, began defying the verdicts of the Italian courts and questioning the credibility of the press, openly disputing the legitimacy of its judgments on his many trials and on his viability as a candidate. Berlusconi did not contradict facts so much as their interpretation and, more distressingly, the validity of any resulting institutional consensus.
@Teinosuke
I guess it was inevitable that a thread decrying the multitude of Trump threads should itself become a Trump thread.
@soothfast saidAmericans think everything revolves around them.
@Teinosuke
I guess it was inevitable that a thread decrying the multitude of Trump threads should itself become a Trump thread.
They're like a herd of narcissists, just roaming around the internet talking about how great they are.
HEY! REMEMBER WW2!!!
HEY! YEAH, 911 WAS THE WORST TERRORIST ATTACK IN HISTORY.
Ugh.
The only good thing in the US is the airport to get the hell out of there.
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