How stupid are these people?

@jj-adams said
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/at-13-baltimore-city-high-schools-zero-students-tested-proficient-on-2023-state-math-exam

So you right-whingers (not a typo) just seem to have nothing better to do but sit on your ass bingeing on whatever is going wrong in a US city.

Those inner city schools are not blessed with quite the resources of the suburbs. Is that your point? Yeah, I doubt it.

The schools that failed 100% are listed in the article. As I'm currently procrastinating on starting work on a graph theory problem on my desk, I looked at some of these schools. Here's the list:

Achievement Academy at Harbor City High
ConneXions: A Community Based Arts School
Coppin Academy
Edmondson-Westside High
Excel Academy at Francis M. Wood High
Frederick Douglass High
Joseph C. Briscoe Academy
New Era Academy
Patterson High
Reginald F. Lewis High
Renaissance Academy
The Reach! Partnership School
Vivien T. Thomas Medical Arts Academy

Most of these school names are strange to me. The word "academy" has apparently been discounted by 90% in the last few decades...

Achievement Academy at Harbor City High: A very small school, and not a normal one. It "serve[s] students with severe academic and/or behavior issues." Okay. So maybe not surprising that it's a problem child.

ConneXions: A Community Based Arts School: A charter school. I thought charter schools were the right-wing darling. Oh well. Anyway, it's an "art focused school." Uh huh. In my experience art people are extremely allergic to mathematics, so this school is disadvantaged right there. But it needs sorting out, clearly.

Coppin Academy: Not operated by Baltimore, but rather by Coppin State University. Another dodgy charter school that ought to be looked into.

Excel Academy at Francis M. Wood High: "Excel Academy is a public alternative placement high school servicing students needing credit recovery for students in grades 9-12." This is another school that takes in the worst students, including adults that didn't graduate from high school the first time 'round.

And so on.

My point is this: these are not random samplings. The schools in question are by and large not representative of Baltimore's 37 high schools.

There is no question, however, that more needs to be done to improve mathematics education in the US, though privatizing the school system is certainly not one of them. All the nations that are kicking the US's ass in mathematics have fully public, "socialized" education systems.

@athousandyoung said
B-more schools as depicted on The Wire:

[youtube Wire Corner Boy discussion] FRDxDvz0bd4[/youtube]

This is more realistic:
YouTube

@soothfast said
So you right-whingers (not a typo) just seem to have nothing better to do but sit on your ass bingeing on whatever is going wrong in a US city.

Those inner city schools are not blessed with quite the resources of the suburbs. Is that your point? Yeah, I doubt it.

The schools that failed 100% are listed in the article. As I'm currently procrastinating on startin ...[text shortened]... ions that are kicking the US's ass in mathematics have fully public, "socialized" education systems.

"13-baltimore-city-high-schools'

read that until you understand it!

@jj-adams said
This is more realistic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7j3_YgM-lE

That's Chi-town not B-more

@jj-adams said
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/at-13-baltimore-city-high-schools-zero-students-tested-proficient-on-2023-state-math-exam

No surprise there. Education is not a priority in the US ..not for govt, not for parents, neither is it for teenagers. The focus has shifted to the following
- social media
- celebrity worship
- getting a low-paying job at 18 and leaving home
- getting as many girls in bed as possible
- getting as many men as possible.
- travelling the world

In other words while teens in China and India are leaning programming and calculus, the US kids are having as must sex as possible. By 20 some have 3 kids with 3 different men. Its a great country.

@mott-the-hoople said
"13-baltimore-city-high-schools'

read that until you understand it!

What's your point?

@soothfast said
What's your point?

All PUBLIC schools failing the students, and you make excuses

@athousandyoung said
That's Chi-town not B-more

I didn't say it was Baltimore, just that it was typical..

@mott-the-hoople said
All PUBLIC schools failing the students, and you make excuses

How is this a point? Private schools routinely kick out poor scorers to keep their school's image clean. Rich kids who can't be kicked out get tutors and ghostwriters.

@mott-the-hoople said
All PUBLIC schools failing the students, and you make excuses

Private schools get to pick their customers, who at any rate tend to come from families with the best resources.

My eye is on the charter school movement. You know, the de facto private schools that get to pilfer tax dollars for profit, and which drain resources from actual public schools. Apparently you did not notice that many of the failing schools listed in the original story of this thread are charter schools. It rather damages the right-wing narrative that charter schools are superior to traditional public schools.

The charter schools are "public" only in the sense that they sponge up public tax dollars. The entire movement is a sham and a scam, but that's a story for another thread.

@soothfast said
Private schools get to pick their customers, who at any rate tend to come from families with the best resources.

My eye is on the charter school movement. You know, the de facto private schools that get to pilfer tax dollars for profit, and which drain resources from actual public schools. Apparently you did not notice that many of the failing schools listed in ...[text shortened]... ublic tax dollars. The entire movement is a sham and a scam, but that's a story for another thread.

my eye is on liberal policies that catered to teachers unions

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/health/coronavirus/the-latest-on-marylands-covid-19-recovery-plan-and-schools/

@mott-the-hoople said
my eye is on liberal policies that catered to teachers unions

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/health/coronavirus/the-latest-on-marylands-covid-19-recovery-plan-and-schools/

Then you might want to see an optometrist, because public schools in the more affluent suburbs perform significantly better than those in the cities, and teachers unions prevail in both regions. Charter school teachers, meanwhile, serve "at the pleasure" of the Powers That Be at the charter school, with job security about on par with the fry cook at a fast food joint. Controlling for socioeconomic factors, non-unionized charter schools do not really perform any better than traditional public schools.

You may need a pretzel recipe to warp these facts to fit your preconceived notions that unions are the root of all evil in US education. Most of the nations running circles around the US in education also have fully unionized teaching staff.