After a post in the Education thread, this came to mind:
A two parent traditional family has the capacity to homeschool their kids, but a single parent family must rely on schools. You can't be in two places at once and if you are working, then you can't be there for your kids.
If you want to make it so that a person must depend on the government, then make that person a single parent. Of course this is not true in all cases, the super rich can afford private schools and to pay for things themselves. For the rest of us, the plight of single parents require special government assistance.
The redefinition of marriage and family is simply a sick ploy to make people unable to survive without the government. People have fallen for this hook line and sinker. It is sad and probably too late.
Everything that progressives do erodes the family unit.
Entitlements in general do this. It used to be that in order to survive, people had children whom they depended upon later to work the fields etc. However, in today's world children are forbidden to work, at least for profit. They are sent to a school where they are not taught any practical knowledge that will help them get a job once they graduate high school, other than being able to read perhaps. Instead, they are taught how global warmind is destroying the planet and how the US is responsible and how bad the US as a nation has been, right before learning about how to have gay sex in class and to use clean needles before taking drugs, but I digress. In today's world, everything has become so expensive that children are more of an economical problem than benefit. Add to the fact that those in the family are no longer dependent upon each other for survival, and what you wind up with are those in the family unit who are more likely to go their own way. Of course, children are more dependent upon their parents because jobs are impossible to come by now in the Progressive economy. Things are so bad that grown men and women till the age of 26 still need to be on their mommies and daddies health care plan.
To sum up, the gay marriage issue is just a way to further expand entitlements. The odd thing about them is that they are earned by what type of sexual union the state champions. Why should they even care whether you are a polygamist or otherwise?
11 May 14
Originally posted by EladarWhat you say has some truth to it, but single parents can and do take part in home schooling. Coops have been formed to allow parents to participate as they are able in home schooling. It isn't always just teaching your kids in the basement. Parents do what they are best qualified to do for the effort to work smoothly.
After a post in the Education thread, this came to mind:
A two parent traditional family has the capacity to homeschool their kids, but a single parent family must rely on schools. You can't be in two places at once and if you are working, then you can't be there for your kids.
If you want to make it so that a person must depend on the government, th ...[text shortened]... government. People have fallen for this hook line and sinker. It is sad and probably too late.
11 May 14
Originally posted by whodey
Everything that progressives do erodes the family unit.
Entitlements in general do this. It used to be that in order to survive, people had children whom they depended upon later to work the fields etc. However, in today's world children are forbidden to work, at least for profit. They are sent to a school where they are not taught any practical knowled ...[text shortened]... union the state champions. Why should they even care whether you are a polygamist or otherwise?
To sum up, the gay marriage issue is just a way to further expand entitlements.At the risk of provoking another outburst of weirdness, in what way can that sentence possibly be said to sum up the preceding diatribe? Far from summing up, the quote is a digression. It resembles the outbursts encountered in Tourette's Syndrome and is in its way quite interesting to observe.
It used to be that in order to survive, people had children whom they depended upon later to work the fields etc. However, in today's world children are forbidden to work, at least for profit. They are sent to a school ...With the Industrial Revolution and the progressive encroachment of capitalism on everyone's lives, working in the fields (typically as part of a family group working together) was replaced with working in factories. Child labour was indeed eventually banned in First World countries and children were sent to school, but capitalism has transferred such practices to the "Developing" world instead. Now just what is it that we want to do here? Return to child labour in factories? (I can see that you want to do away with schooling of course, come to think of it).
Have you not had a formal diagnosis for your condition yet or is there just no pill that works for you any more?
11 May 14
Originally posted by normbenignHomeschooling is not the only issue. My point was that you can't be in two places at once and it is impossible to raise a child and work at the same time. You can't be in both places at once.
What you say has some truth to it, but single parents can and do take part in home schooling. Coops have been formed to allow parents to participate as they are able in home schooling. It isn't always just teaching your kids in the basement. Parents do what they are best qualified to do for the effort to work smoothly.
11 May 14
Originally posted by EladarIf you work 8 hours a day, that still leaves 16 plus weekends. People do lots of things besides work, many of them a lot less important than seeing to their children's education and future welfare.
Homeschooling is not the only issue. My point was that you can't be in two places at once and it is impossible to raise a child and work at the same time. You can't be in both places at once.
11 May 14
Originally posted by finneganAs is your habit, you present alternatives which exclude the real ones.To sum up, the gay marriage issue is just a way to further expand entitlements.At the risk of provoking another outburst of weirdness, in what way can that sentence possibly be said to sum up the preceding diatribe? Far from summing up, the quote is a digression. It resembles the outbursts encountered in Tourette's Syndrome and is in its way ...[text shortened]... a formal diagnosis for your condition yet or is there just no pill that works for you any more?
11 May 14
Originally posted by normbenignWho is taking care of those kids of yours those 40 hours plus drive time? Not you. Usually those 40 hours + are during your child's learning time. Face it, when you drop your kids of at day care, it is the day care that's raising your kids not you.
If you work 8 hours a day, that still leaves 16 plus weekends. People do lots of things besides work, many of them a lot less important than seeing to their children's education and future welfare.
Of those remaining 16 hours (excluding drive time) how much of it is sleep? Another typical problem of single parents, keeping their kids up too late due to lack of kid time. That isn't very healthy for the kid.
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Originally posted by EladarI don't mean to make light of the difficulty of raising kids for single parents. It might be a good idea not to be one in the first place, but that aside, everyone has a hard life.
Who is taking care of those kids of yours those 40 hours plus drive time? Not you. Usually those 40 hours + are during your child's learning time. Face it, when you drop your kids of at day care, it is the day care that's raising your kids not you.
You seem to be arguing that public schools are supposed to be baby sitters for single parents.
Of those ...[text shortened]... s, keeping their kids up too late due to lack of kid time. That isn't very healthy for the kid.
Grandparents, aunt and uncles are resources. Often single parents team up with other single parents. There are solutions if one tries to find them. I'll guarantee the same single parent that complains about no time to raise the kids, finds time to go out and have a boyfriend or girlfriend, or whatever else turns them on. Most of us do what we really want to do, and make excuses for the things we say are too hard.
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Originally posted by finneganYou are a stereotypical Progressive. For example, if you mention reducing the size and scope of government, then you go on a hysterical rant saying that the person in question wants anarchy.To sum up, the gay marriage issue is just a way to further expand entitlements.At the risk of provoking another outburst of weirdness, in what way can that sentence possibly be said to sum up the preceding diatribe? Far from summing up, the quote is a digression. It resembles the outbursts encountered in Tourette's Syndrome and is in its way ...[text shortened]... a formal diagnosis for your condition yet or is there just no pill that works for you any more?
The point I was making was that the state disallows children from maturing. A great deal of their time is wasted in public schools. When students graduate, assuming they can even read, they have no real life experiences to enable them to succeed in real world, unless they have sold drugs on the streets illegally. They are so badly prepared for life when they reach adulthood at age 18, that unless they go on to college they virtually have no future. These kids have no work ethic, no money, and no training when they graduate high school. To top it all off, the US public educational system ranks 48th in the world, so those wanting to go to college are not even in a good position to go on to college.
Those lucky enough to make it to college and succeed, will end up graduating at around age 23 or so. So the standard typically child has been shielded from the real world for 23 years, not knowing how to even balance a check book, let alone how to find a job in a jobless economy with a ton of college debt that the government makes sure that they can never escape from. It will be a debt that will slowly crush any hope of a vibrant future, kids, home, car, etc. will all be effected. Does the government care? Nope, they just allow college tuition to increase exponentially even though everyone else is cutting back in a dying Progressive economy. Of course, the payback to the lawmakers is that the children have all been brainwashed to vote "D" in their colleges and universities as they stand in the unemployment line or work at Starbucks after receiving their 4 year degree in Communications. What is worse is that these kids are often clueless about money, because the public education system teaches them virtually nothing about managing money, so more than likely they have run up a ton of debt on credit cards in addition to their massive student loans. It's just a good thing that Obama allows this adult children to remain on their parents insurance till age 26. That will afford them a few good years before the IRS comes after them regarding purchasing health care of their own.
12 May 14
Originally posted by whodeyWell done. That is quite coherent and sets out an opinion without getting diverted too badly from what you are saying. Your earlier post was incoherent and very odd.
You are a stereotypical Progressive. For example, if you mention reducing the size and scope of government, then you go on a hysterical rant saying that the person in question wants anarchy.
The point I was making was that the state disallows children from maturing. A great deal of their time is wasted in public schools. When students graduate, assuming ...[text shortened]... a few good years before the IRS comes after them regarding purchasing health care of their own.
12 May 14
Originally posted by normbenignIn a generation the number of aunts, uncles and grandparents will drop as more and more single parents raise children. As the family safety net drops, the government will be there to make things right!
I don't mean to make light of the difficulty of raising kids for single parents. It might be a good idea not to be one in the first place, but that aside, everyone has a hard life.
Grandparents, aunt and uncles are resources. Often single parents team up with other single parents. There are solutions if one tries to find them. I'll guarantee the s ...[text shortened]... . Most of us do what we really want to do, and make excuses for the things we say are too hard.
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Originally posted by EladarNo wonder America has lost its way with all this anti-government sentiment! Single parent families face extra pressures and sometimes need extra help, to attempt to cite this as a catalyst for more anti-government sentiment is quite unreal, for no doubt many would rather be completely self sufficient given the choice. I'd also like to point out that its a Christian obligation to look after widows and fatherless boys/girls.
In a generation the number of aunts, uncles and grandparents will drop as more and more single parents raise children. As the family safety net drops, the government will be there to make things right!