@no1marauder saidIs the $8.9T a net after expenses?😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣
What "estimates"? Here's what the Congressional Budget Office says about the net effect of immigration on the US economy:
"The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that the greater level of immigration expected between 2024 and 2034 will boost gross domestic product (GDP) by $8.9 trillion."
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/content/explainer-immigrants-and-us-economy
People are the greatest resource a country can have.
@AverageJoe1 saidPeople here who is doing nothing but working and raising their families should be given a path to citizenship not summarily deported regardless of how they got here. To do otherwise is simply damaging the economic present and future of the US. This is to say nothing of the incredible waste of resources that having military type raids on apartment buildings, county fairs and other innocuous locations that are offensive to this country's traditions are.
No question about the potential immigrants coming here and helping us make America great again. The issue is about the immigrants coming here. You liberal sure can dodge. Or actually you cannot dodge. You can’t kid a kidder.
The only issue on the table is controlling immigrants come into our country, after we get everyone out of here that should not be here. That is the issue.
@Rajk999 saidWrong again:
That study takes in information from 25 years ago, prior to this mess created by Biden. In general, immigration that is controlled, taking in educated productive people who contribute to the economy is a plus. Otherwise it is a drain and a liability.
"In this report, CBO describes how that 2021–2026 surge
in immigration affects its baseline budget and economic
projections for the 2024–2034 period."
https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2024-07/60165-Immigration.pdf
@AverageJoe1 saidOur endgame is to rid the country of Trump, Steve Miller, Vought, and the rest of the project 2025 crowd, they want to destroy our government and we will not stand for it.
And you want chaos. You and Marauder want the usa to fail so you can ....what... What is your endgame?
You should read "On Tyranny'' by Timothy Snyder, lessons about resisting the rise of authoritarians from the twentieth century.
But of course you are with the crowd WANTING the end of democracy, I suppose you think we NEED a dictator and that dictator needs to be Trump.
@sonhouse saidSean house there are many other books written that are totally opposite of what he writes. So you have to pick one way or the other. I picked the other way. I cannot imagine, living like you, fellas with all of the hate in the upending of our society. You are throwing your lives away in the interest of changing something that has been rocking along for 250 years. Have a clear head that’s communism and socialism. Do not work. So with that in mind, what is your endgame ? You said, get rid of Trump, who would you replace him with. That is a fair question that is a damn fair question. But this is where liberals and losers cannot come to the table. You never have and you never will.
Our endgame is to rid the country of Trump, Steve Miller, Vought, and the rest of the project 2025 crowd, they want to destroy our government and we will not stand for it.
You should read "On Tyranny'' by Timothy Snyder, lessons about resisting the rise of authoritarians from the twentieth century.
But of course you are with the crowd WANTING the end of democracy, I suppose you think we NEED a dictator and that dictator needs to be Trump.
You rant like a preacher standing on a peach box in the middle of the public Square. You’ve seen them, people pay them no mind..
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@AverageJoe1 saidSo you actually read On Tyranny?
Sean house there are many other books written that are totally opposite of what he writes. So you have to pick one way or the other. I picked the other way. I cannot imagine, living like you, fellas with all of the hate in the upending of our society. You are throwing your lives away in the interest of changing something that has been rocking along for 250 years. Have a c ...[text shortened]... nding on a peach box in the middle of the public Square. You’ve seen them, people pay them no mind..
Notice how I kept it to a couple of sentences so even YOU can understand it.
@AverageJoe1 saidIt has to take a sociopath like you to confuse my hatred of the Trump regime With hatred of upending our society. Trump is the one perverting our entire government and OF COURSE you are fully in on the ruining of our government which will take DECADES to correct all the absolute damage Trump has caused, like you say how WONDERFUL it was for Trump to kick in billions to support soy farmers when he was the one who CAUSED the marketing problem with soy bean growers by running up an ILLEGAL tariff on China and they responded by saying FK YOU, we will buy soy from Brazil, so Trump kicks in billions to support those farmers but with nothing about NEXT year. Typical Trump, FK things up, then pump money into the problem for a year then abandon the issue. Which WILL come back to haunt him.
Sean house there are many other books written that are totally opposite of what he writes. So you have to pick one way or the other. I picked the other way. I cannot imagine, living like you, fellas with all of the hate in the upending of our society. You are throwing your lives away in the interest of changing something that has been rocking along for 250 years. Have a c ...[text shortened]... nding on a peach box in the middle of the public Square. You’ve seen them, people pay them no mind..
@AverageJoe1 saidThis is your response earlier:
This one responds. ,,
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‘,so you actually read such-and-such”. That is his debate response. Look at it,just above. Unbelievable. What a combatant, he could beat sue Ann ass….
Sean house there are many other books written that are totally opposite of what he writes.
I asked if you read it or even heard of that book, it should be up your ally it is a VERY short book more like a long tablet.
I imagine you would HATE any book that would be AGAINST the US turning into a dictatorship since your every word points to the idea you think our democracy has ALREADY failed.
Is my assumption right? Is our democracy already a failure IN YOUR MIND?
Are you capable of even answering a simple question like that?
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@sonhouse saidYes, but alas, your “questions’ are tho writings of hate and angst. Two traits with which I am unfamiliar. You write like a madman. Thus any reference by a madman to democracy is like an atheist writing about religion, There is no way for anyone on earth to respond to such a person.
This is your response earlier:
Sean house there are many other books written that are totally opposite of what he writes.
I asked if you read it or even heard of that book, it should be up your ally it is a VERY short book more like a long tablet.
I imagine you would HATE any book that would be AGAINST the US turning into a dictatorship since your every word points ...[text shortened]... y already a failure IN YOUR MIND?
Are you capable of even answering a simple question like that?
Any idea on the identity of the Australian killers of Jews ? Seeing how you support Mamdani, an anti-Semite? Logical questions are my specialty.
@AverageJoe1
If answering a normal debater, I would say democracy is weakening in the USA with our allowing the influence of liberal ideas. Pick one. Like, no one is put to death anymore,,,Mangione is videoed shooting an innocent father in the back. He should be executed by now. No one will ever be punished in the DOJ FBI sleaze of Hillary Comey Brennan conspiracy to take down our DEMOCRACY! I would end my answer to suggest Sonhouse be investigated as part of the caper, being supportive thereof., and therefore trying himself to erase democracy in America.
This is an example of how to answer a question.
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@AverageJoe1 saidMangione is videoed shooting an innocent father in the back.
@AverageJoe1
If answering a normal debater, I would say democracy is weakening in the USA with our allowing the influence of liberal ideas. Pick one. Like, no one is put to death anymore,,,Mangione is videoed shooting an innocent father in the back. He should be executed by now. No one will ever be punished in the DOJ FBI sleaze of Hillary Comey Brennan conspiracy to ta ...[text shortened]... ore trying himself to erase democracy in America.
This is an example of how to answer a question.
There was nothing innocent about that worthless slime-ball what-so-ever. There many hundreds, if not thousands of Children and people whom died or suffered as the hands of that slime-ball you call an "innocent father." And these people all died and suffered so your slime-ball father could pocket another dollar. Do you think that your supposed innocent father is in heaven right now little Catholic joe boy? I don't think so.
One thing that I know you like about Mangione little Catholic joe boy, is that he is a multi-millionaire. Go figure eh?... 🙂 lol...
@AverageJoe1 saidOF COURSE that is what you would think, a dyed in the wool Trumpite, Magate and in love with Trump who can NEVER do anything wrong, whatever he does is RIGHT because TRUMP did it.
Yes, but alas, your “questions’ are tho writings of hate and angst. Two traits with which I am unfamiliar. You write like a madman. Thus any reference by a madman to democracy is like an atheist writing about religion, There is no way for anyone on earth to respond to such a person.
Any idea on the identity of the Australian killers of Jews ? Seeing how you support Mamdani, an anti-Semite? Logical questions are my specialty.
What is going on here is you are one of a failing minority of Trump lovers, the REST of the US cannot stand him and he is below ground in ALL the different kinds of polls, like how he handles immigration, or the economy or his attacks on Venezuela and then saying we are at war with drug traffickers but in fact Trump has PARDONED 100 KNOWN drug traffickers.
So much for Trump being this huge anti drug runner stance.
His killing of the dudes on those boats, now up to 80 dead including 2 who were clinging for life on the broken bits of the boat already targeted, something that hasn't happened since the Japanese did exactly that in WW2, shoot folks in lifeboats or clinging to bits of wood and no threat to anyone.
But OF COURSE since Trump can NEVER do ANYTHING wrong from your POV, he is CLEARLY fully justified in doing whatever the hell he wants, flaunting international law in place for 80 years, Ho Hum.
And OF COURSE you will respond with yet another mind blowing ZZZZZ which sums up all of your sociopathic ways.