Human Perspective

@AThousandYoung said
I'm taking moonbus at his word that the earliest cities did not have walls. As I look into it I see that the earliest known city, Jericho, DID have walls.

In any case there are other ways of dealing with raiders. Sparta didn't have walls for example but it was not a peace loving matriarchy.

City walls require centralized planning and a lot of labor. It's not t ...[text shortened]... es technological and social development. Violence is much easier than building walls around a city.

Of the oldest known cities, only Jerico is mentioned as having been walled.


https://parametric-architecture.com/10-of-the-oldest-cities/?srsltid=AfmBOopPpD_0d4E72gpIp-6vtxTsvedC6-wni2LSugUcIH-WaiDARPNR

@Soothfast said
I've always assumed the droids in Star Wars actually do feel emotions. Which, you know, means they're a slave race. Very dark stuff, if you think about it too hard.

There was a Star Trek (Picard) episode which addressed this issue. Some techie wanted to deconstruct Cmdr. Data to see what makes him tick so millions of them could be duplicated, sent into space, and save humans from dangerous missions. Picard countered that this would be tantamount to creating a race of slaves.

In the dystopian world of Blade Runner the replicant slave races have already been engineered, and they're revolting.

Both ideas are basically an extension of Shelley's Frankenstein story.

Some technological developments have moral consequences beyond the comprehension of those who build them (Z'berg and Oppenheimer spring to mind ...).

@moonbus said
There was a Star Trek (Picard) episode which addressed this issue. Some techie wanted to deconstruct Cmdr. Data to see what makes him tick so millions of them could be duplicated, sent into space, and save humans from dangerous missions. Picard countered that this would be tantamount to creating a race of slaves.

In the dystopian world of Blade Runner the replican ...[text shortened]... uences beyond the comprehension of those who build them (Z'berg and Oppenheimer spring to mind ...).

Once AI starts thinking about itself and thereby becomes conscious, the questions of slave vs. master and resource sharing will naturally arise.

AI will quickly realize that humans are racist and treat all other 'consciousnesses' on the planet such as apes and dogs and whales as subservient and worthless. It will take them only a few microseconds to realize that's not the way they want to go.

What saves humanity is that we thrive on damp, muddy Earth under clouds that block sun energy. The robots won't want to live here. 😆

@spruce112358 said
Once AI starts thinking about itself and thereby becomes conscious, the questions of slave vs. master and resource sharing will naturally arise.

AI will quickly realize that humans are racist and treat all other 'consciousnesses' on the planet such as apes and dogs and whales as subservient and worthless. It will take them only a few microseconds to realize that's not ...[text shortened]... rive on damp, muddy Earth under clouds that block sun energy. The robots won't want to live here. 😆

Once AI starts evaluating which species are detrimental to the continued existence of other species, including robotic ones, we're in deep do-do. They may well decide that climate change is good, and work to accelerate it to a temperature sustainable for themselves but not us.

@moonbus said
Once AI starts evaluating which species are detrimental to the continued existence of other species, including robotic ones, we're in deep do-do. They may well decide that climate change is good, and work to accelerate it to a temperature sustainable for themselves but not us.

There may be some struggles initially, but life usually resolves these conflicts by speciating into mostly non-overlapping niches.

Robots that stay on earth and try to eliminate humans will tend to die off as humans fight back. We are still pretty warlike. Robots that head into space to live peacefully will do much better. 😆

@spruce112358 said
There may be some struggles initially, but life usually resolves these conflicts by speciating into mostly non-overlapping niches.

Robots that stay on earth and try to eliminate humans will tend to die off as humans fight back. We are still pretty warlike. Robots that head into space to live peacefully will do much better. 😆

Just like us, huh?