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Hyperinflation and the USA

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At what point does the World's capacity and the Fed's ability to juggle interest rates hit the wall and the US starts experiencing exponential inflationary pressure?

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That moment occur one second before all the left whingers blame capitalism.

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I have no idea how the Fed gets it money. As far as I'm concerned it is simply a ponzi scheme where the rich are given money that doesn't exist to lend to the poor.

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Originally posted by Eladar
I have no idea how the Fed gets it money. As far as I'm concerned it is simply a ponzi scheme where the rich are given money that doesn't exist to lend to the poor.
the question I'm getting to is could the US ever slip into the position Germany found itself circa 1920?

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Originally posted by kmax87
the question I'm getting to is could the US ever slip into the position Germany found itself circa 1920?
Of course that is possible, but I think the great question is where does the Fed get its money?

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Originally posted by Eladar
I have no idea how the Fed gets it money. As far as I'm concerned it is simply a ponzi scheme where the rich are given money that doesn't exist to lend to the poor.
The lack of economic knowledge by right wingers on this site is truly astonishing.

Maybe this will help: http://www.ustreas.gov/education/faq/currency/legal-tender.shtml

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Originally posted by no1marauder
The lack of economic knowledge by right wingers on this site is truly astonishing.
Perhaps you can explain where the Fed gets its money.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Perhaps you can explain where the Fed gets its money.
Federal Reserve Banks obtain the notes from our Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP). It pays the BEP for the cost of producing the notes, which then become liabilities of the Federal Reserve Banks, and obligations of the United States Government.

Congress has specified that a Federal Reserve Bank must hold collateral equal in value to the Federal Reserve notes that the Bank receives. This collateral is chiefly gold certificates and United States securities. This provides backing for the note issue. The idea was that if the Congress dissolved the Federal Reserve System, the United States would take over the notes (liabilities). This would meet the requirements of Section 411, but the government would also take over the assets, which would be of equal value. Federal Reserve notes represent a first lien on all the assets of the Federal Reserve Banks, and on the collateral specifically held against them.

From the site in my last post (edited during your reply apparently).

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I'm not talking about the bills, I'm talking about the numbers in the computers. Where does the Fed get the money?

The Fed is thinking about buy a 600 million in Treasuries. Where does the Fed get this 600 million? They aren't doing it with dollar bills.

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Are you saying all left wingers can spit that out?....just askin

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Originally posted by Eladar
I'm not talking about the bills, I'm talking about the numbers in the computers. Where does the Fed get the money?

The Fed is thinking about buy a 600 million in Treasuries. Where does the Fed get this 600 million? They aren't doing it with dollar bills.
A quick google search found this: http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2008/12/federal-reserve-assets.html

which says the Fed had $2.3 TRILLION in assets in late 2008.

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What do they have now?

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Originally posted by Eladar
What do they have now?
Do your own research if you're so interested.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Federal Reserve Banks obtain the notes from our Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP). It pays the BEP for the cost of producing the notes, which then become liabilities of the Federal Reserve Banks, and obligations of the United States Government.
Is the Fed powerful enough to be a ballast against bad economic activity?

What would the worse case scenario have to consist of for the US to resemble Germany in 1922?

Does anyone know of the limits to the elasticity of the system?

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Originally posted by kmax87
Is the Fed powerful enough to be a ballast against bad economic activity?

What would the worse case scenario have to consist of for the US to resemble Germany in 1922?

Does anyone know of the limits to the elasticity of the system?
If anything, monetary policy of the scope proposed may well be too weak to be an effective stimulus in an economy with as much underutilized capacity as the US has now. Relatively small changes in the velocity of money could virtually wipe out any expansionary effects.

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