In my long lifetime I've seen each wave of young people with ambitions to change the world. My lot wanted to be missionaries and help the poor. Then there were the flower children, give peace a chance, the Peace Corps, no testing on animals, etc.etc.etc. Sure, each wave breaks on the beach of home acquisition, family formation, and then school fees, but the idealism was always there.
All I see now are young people drinking or drugging themselves into stupidity, marching in the streets demanding something for themselves, or queueing up to get the latest i-toy. What went wrong?
Originally posted by KewpieYou used to walk uphill both ways, Gramps?
In my long lifetime I've seen each wave of young people with ambitions to change the world. My lot wanted to be missionaries and help the poor. Then there were the flower children, give peace a chance, the Peace Corps, no testing on animals, etc.etc.etc. Sure, each wave breaks on the beach of home acquisition, family formation, and then school fees, but ...[text shortened]... demanding something for themselves, or queueing up to get the latest i-toy. What went wrong?
Now tell me about your new hip...
Originally posted by KewpiePerhaps you slept through the Occupy Wall Street protests last year.
In my long lifetime I've seen each wave of young people with ambitions to change the world. My lot wanted to be missionaries and help the poor. Then there were the flower children, give peace a chance, the Peace Corps, no testing on animals, etc.etc.etc. Sure, each wave breaks on the beach of home acquisition, family formation, and then school fees, but ...[text shortened]... demanding something for themselves, or queueing up to get the latest i-toy. What went wrong?
Originally posted by rwingettThat's what he's talking about though. The occupy wall street crowd were a bunch of kids who thought that employment was guaranteed if they went to college. When they couldn't get 50000 dollar a year jobs they got pissed. Give those kids a cushy desk job and a 401k and those protests never go anywhere.
Perhaps you slept through the Occupy Wall Street protests last year.
Originally posted by KewpieAt least the kids "drinking or drugging themselves into stupidity, marching in the streets demanding something for themselves, or queueing up to get the latest i-toy" are not doing espousing dangerous ideas like "no testing on animals."
In my long lifetime I've seen each wave of young people with ambitions to change the world. My lot wanted to be missionaries and help the poor. Then there were the flower children, give peace a chance, the Peace Corps, no testing on animals, etc.etc.etc. Sure, each wave breaks on the beach of home acquisition, family formation, and then school fees, but ...[text shortened]... demanding something for themselves, or queueing up to get the latest i-toy. What went wrong?
Originally posted by dryhumpSpoken by someone who wasn't there.
That's what he's talking about though. The occupy wall street crowd were a bunch of kids who thought that employment was guaranteed if they went to college. When they couldn't get 50000 dollar a year jobs they got pissed. Give those kids a cushy desk job and a 401k and those protests never go anywhere.
Originally posted by dryhumpYou saw what the media chose for you to see, the snippets of which were then filtered through your ideological biases, and voila, you end up with a stilted representation of the Occupy movement that bears no resemblance to reality.
A fine point. Spoken by someone who listened to the talking heads representing the Occupy movement in radio interviews and on tv. This is the image they presented.
Originally posted by rwingettYou act like we don't all filter information through our biases. We are the 99% rang very false to me. Have a look at how people live in India, or Africa, or just about anywhere around the globe compared with the US. Suddenly your 99% looks like it might need a decimal point adjustment.
You saw what the media chose for you to see, the snippets of which were then filtered through your ideological biases, and voila, you end up with a stilted representation of the Occupy movement that bears no resemblance to reality.
Originally posted by dryhumpThe "99%" business is also arrogant and presumptuous. Whomever the leaders of the movement are, they know perfectly well that a majority of Americans, or at least a very sizable minority, aren't buying their ideas.
You act like we don't all filter information through our biases. We are the 99% rang very false to me. Have a look at how people live in India, or Africa, or just about anywhere around the globe compared with the US. Suddenly your 99% looks like it might need a decimal point adjustment.
At least the "silent majority" people claimed only the support of the majority, not an absurd 99%.
Originally posted by dryhumpSo we should all make what the lowest paid worker in the world does? Or that we have no right to complain unless we do? Either one is completely ridiculous.
You act like we don't all filter information through our biases. We are the 99% rang very false to me. Have a look at how people live in India, or Africa, or just about anywhere around the globe compared with the US. Suddenly your 99% looks like it might need a decimal point adjustment.
We may all filter information through our biases, but my information passed through fewer layers of distortion than did yours. As someone who participated in several Occupy demonstrations, I can tell you from first hand experience that your representation of the Occupy movement is inaccurate. The misperceptions that you entertain are the result of additional layers of distortion from having corporate owned media provide you with their opinion first. And if you're getting your information from FOX News, it's no wonder you haven't formed an accurate mental picture of the real world.
Originally posted by sh76We are all leaders.
The "99%" business is also arrogant and presumptuous. Whomever the leaders of the movement are, they know perfectly well that a majority of Americans, or at least a very sizable minority, aren't buying their ideas.
At least the "silent majority" people claimed only the support of the majority, not an absurd 99%.