@no1marauder saidI understood your question and I said I don’t know why they would do that, maybe they had faith in the drugs they give him would work long enough to get through the debate.
Maybe you're "losing it" since you didn't understand the first sentence in my post you just quoted.
@KellyJay saidHow often does a major political party nominate for President a convicted felon?
How often does the party put pressure on the one who won the most votes to get out? If there is nothing abnormal about this how often has this happened this way?
Now that's "abnormal".
@KellyJay saidYou said I think "he [Biden] is good to go".
I understood your question and I said I don’t know why they would do that, maybe they had faith in the drugs they give him would work long enough to get through the debate.
The first sentence I wrote in the post you quoted was:
no1: I think both him and Trump are too old and mentally unfit to be President.
@no1marauder saidI agree with you on Biden but he got the votes and those in power want to circumvent that process, that in the middle of an election. Not because he is unfit but because he is thought to be losing!
You said I think "he [Biden] is good to go".
The first sentence I wrote in the post you quoted was:
no1: I think both him and Trump are too old and mentally unfit to be President.
@no1marauder saidI believe it was a sham trial and still everyone is voting for who they want with their eyes open. Would you stop that from happening if you could?
How often does a major political party nominate for President a convicted felon?
Now that's "abnormal".
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@KellyJay saidThe only one with the power to have him step aside is Joe Biden.
I agree with you on Biden but he got the votes and those in power want to circumvent that process, that in the middle of an election. Not because he is unfit but because he is thought to be losing!
And if even President Biden feels that doubts about his fitness for office make him likely to lose the election and he drops out, so what? The purpose of running a candidate for President is to have them win after all.
@KellyJay saidLMAO! Then you are a bigger brainwashed fool than I thought (not really; I pretty much knew you were a brainwashed fool).
I believe it was a sham trial and still everyone is voting for who they want with their eyes open. Would you stop that from happening if you could?
A responsible political party wouldn't run a convicted felon facing possible prison time. But the Republicans are more of a cult subservient to a con man than a political party these days.
I don't suppose you were aware that the Republican Party removed from their platform for the first time in 40 years a plank supporting national legislation against abortion. This was because the Donald, in all his wisdom, decided it wouldn't help him in November. I also read that not a single speaker at the Convention mentioned the word "abortion" at all for the same reason.
@no1marauder saidI am sure you viewed it as perfectly normal and fair that too speaks more about you in my opinion. Did you also believe that he should have been fined a half billion dollars for loans he took out and paid back?
LMAO! Then you are a bigger brainwashed fool than I thought (not really; I pretty much knew you were a brainwashed fool).
A responsible political party wouldn't run a convicted felon facing possible prison time. But the Republicans are more of a cult subservient to a con man than a political party these days.
I don't suppose you were aware that the Republican Party ...[text shortened]... hat not a single speaker at the Convention mentioned the word "abortion" at all for the same reason.
@no1marauder saidI agree he has the power to stay in or leave but pressure comes from various means. Force doesn’t have to by direct force to get him to do what he does not want to do. Just watch like the rest of us, what will they do?
The only one with the power to have him step aside is Joe Biden.
And if even President Biden feels that doubts about his fitness for office make him likely to lose the election and he drops out, so what? The purpose of running a candidate for President is to have them win after all.
@KellyJay saidThat's not what he was fined for as you either know or don't want to know.
I am sure you viewed it as perfectly normal and fair that too speaks more about you in my opinion. Did you also believe that he should have been fined a half billion dollars for loans he took out and paid back?
Yes, the New York criminal trial was perfectly normal; there's hundreds of them every week in the State and there had been hundreds of cases tried in that district for the same crime that Trump was charged with.
@KellyJay saidWhat can the mysterious THEY do to force the President of the United States to do anything he doesn't want to do?
I agree he has the power to stay in or leave but pressure comes from various means. Force doesn’t have to by direct force to get him to do what he does not want to do. Just watch like the rest of us, what will they do?
He may drop out, he may not. Sure, there are some people who are trying to convince him he should do so for the good of the party and the country. At least their motives are honest; not like yours and the other right wingers all of sudden screeching he should stay on just because you think it would help Trump win.
@no1marauder saidNothing mysterious about "they", there are those upfront about it and those behind the scenes, ignore it if you will. It does seem like there are a lot of things occurring right in front of everyone, but instead of looking at it all, people search for spin they like, not reality. People want to be told what to think instead of thinking for themselves, they believe what they are told not what they see from science, politics, biology, gender, the list goes on.
What can the mysterious THEY do to force the President of the United States to do anything he doesn't want to do?
He may drop out, he may not. Sure, there are some people who are trying to convince him he should do so for the good of the party and the country. At least their motives are honest; not like yours and the other right wingers all of sudden screeching he should stay on just because you think it would help Trump win.
@no1marauder saidYour opinion about that speaks more about you, and considering your profession that is quite a statement.
That's not what he was fined for as you either know or don't want to know.
Yes, the New York criminal trial was perfectly normal; there's hundreds of them every week in the State and there had been hundreds of cases tried in that district for the same crime that Trump was charged with.
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@no1marauder saidFour more years of Trump would undoubtedly be extremely unpleasant and damaging to the country, but the "end of democracy" hype is overstated.
That's a bit hysterical.
Four more years of Trump would undoubtedly be extremely unpleasant and damaging to the country, but the "end of democracy" hype is overstated. There are sufficient institutional safeguards to prevent this silly con man and his minions from dismantling 230+ years of Constitutional government in the US.
Democrats should simply run on Trump's failures and unpopular political positions rather than such histrionics.
That assumes Trump will serve at most only one more term. I assume the opposite, that his co-conspirators are already planning to circumvent the constitutional limit, for example by running the same ticket (Vance/Trump) with titles reversed 4 and then 8 years later. Of course, everyone knows that Trump as VP would still be calling the shots, just as, even now, he calls the shots from Mar-A-Lago when he tells Johnson to 'Kill Bill' and Johnson kills it. With a potential Constitutional crisis looming, whether anyone could be POTUS two terms and then VP another two terms, we have already seen how the current SCOTUS tilts.