@AverageJoe1 saidBwahahahahahaha!!!
We want everyone to vote because we know they will vote Republican if they have any sense about the magnitude of what has transpired under Trump.
Hey, have you been listening to some house about how he does not like personalities? Not a good reason to vote for someone or to not vote for someone..
No, really. Get serious.
@Suzianne saidI'm just going by what you said, Suzi. You're just mad because I found a way to defeat your thrust 🙂
Get real.
Democrats do not get involved with voter suppression.
This is strictly a Republican hobby, usually against PoC.
If a Republican can't vote, it's probably because they failed to register to vote on time, not because some Democrat eliminated their voting location.
You're the one who needs to 'wake up'.
Suzianne, between you, me, and the wall, do you really think the republicans will ever be accused
of massive voter fraud the way the democrats have been...? really, sister?
I can still quote some of the real anomalies that were found in all 5 purple states, in 2020. Also, the Repubs
are trying to get the SAVE act passed to protect the voting in America, much to the approval of 84% of the voters.
And guess who is fighting it every inch of the way?, dear Suzi? I thought your people *liked* democracy.
But you're all acting like freekin' dictators.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidThere's definitely more people caught illegally voting for Trump than Biden in the last election.
Let me know when MAGA brings in illegal aliens that vote republican.
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@Earl-of-Trumps saidThat's BS; no poll shows 84% approval for the SAVE Act, which is more intended to reduce voter turnout than to deal with the almost non-existent "problem" of voter fraud:
I'm just going by what you said, Suzi. You're just mad because I found a way to defeat your thrust 🙂
Suzianne, between you, me, and the wall, do you really think the republicans will ever be accused
of massive voter fraud the way the democrats have been...? really, sister?
I can still quote some of the real anomalies that were found in all 5 purple states, in 2 ...[text shortened]... ear Suzi? I thought your people *liked* democracy.
But you're all acting like freekin' dictators.
"Before reading a series of messages opposing the SAVE Act, Americans support the act by 11 points (50% support – 39% oppose), including independents by seven points (42% support – 35% oppose). After reading a series of messages opposing the SAVE Act, Americans oppose the act by two points (45% support – 47% oppose), underwater among independents by 12 points (34% support – 46% oppose)."
https://navigatorresearch.org/the-more-americans-learn-about-the-save-act-the-less-they-like-it/
Democracy is enhanced by people being able to vote without pointless roadblocks being placed to prevent them from doing so.
@no1marauder saidno poll shows 84% approval for the SAVE Act/
That's BS; no poll shows 84% approval for the SAVE Act, which is more intended to reduce voter turnout than to deal with the almost non-existent "problem" of voter fraud:
"Before reading a series of messages opposing the SAVE Act, Americans support the act by 11 points (50% support – 39% oppose), including independents by seven points (42% support – 35% oppose). After ...[text shortened]... y people being able to vote without pointless roadblocks being placed to prevent them from doing so.
wrong. here is AI
Public support for the SAVE Act (Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act) is heavily divided in polling, often appearing higher in general, partisan-backed surveys (up to 71%–83😵 compared to specific, detailed polls which show lower, uncertain support (28% support, 31% oppose, 41% unsure).
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I won't go looking for the specific file.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidMaybe you should read the sentence you quoted; it verifies what I said.
no poll shows 84% approval for the SAVE Act/
wrong. here is AI
Public support for the SAVE Act (Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act) is heavily divided in polling, often appearing higher in general, partisan-backed surveys (up to 71%–83😵 compared to specific, detailed polls which show lower, uncertain support (28% support, 31% oppose, 41% unsure).
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I won't go looking for the specific file.
"general, partisan backed" polls don't actually give details of what is specifically contained in the SAVE Act, so they are next to worthless.
@no1marauder saidpay attention to what you said: no poll shows 84% approval for the SAVE Act
Maybe you should read the sentence you quoted; it verifies what I said.
"general, partisan backed" polls don't actually give details of what is specifically contained in the SAVE Act, so they are next to worthless.
it doesn't have to be a citing that you approve of.
Where I got the 84% figure, it was relating to "Voter ID", not specifically the save act
@Earl-of-Trumps saidEarl: Also, the Repubs are trying to get the SAVE act passed to protect the voting in America, much to the approval of 84% of the voters.
pay attention to what you said: no poll shows 84% approval for the SAVE Act
it doesn't have to be a citing that you approve of.
Where I got the 84% figure, it was relating to "Voter ID", not specifically the save act
Say again?
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@Earl-of-Trumps saidWhy not?
I'm just going by what you said, Suzi. You're just mad because I found a way to defeat your thrust 🙂
Suzianne, between you, me, and the wall, do you really think the republicans will ever be accused
of massive voter fraud the way the democrats have been...? really, sister?
They're the ones guilty of plain old voter suppression.
This has been going on since Reagan.
And, for your information, the Democrats have been painted falsely with the voter fraud label, meaning the fraud is mainly committed by those who vote. This has been shown patently false by all the lawsuits brought by Trump-thralls which have been thrown out. The numbers Republicans are claiming happens is just fear-mongering overestimations. They hear stories (like your stories) of isolated events happening, and they claim this is actually happening on a large scale which affects elections. This has shown to be entirely false. The numbers involved in these stories are one here, one there, 10 here, 10 there, 20 here, 20 there. Now the emphasis has shifted to election fraud or limiting access to the voting process, or blaming officials for accepting votes by those unentitled to vote. Republicans use these claims to shove new laws down our throats, from not allowing mail-in ballots, to removing polling places and reducing the number of voting kiosks and drop-off locations, laws which only serve to reduce the number of (mainly minorities) votes that get counted. This is also election fraud committed mainly by Republicans, one infinitely more common than the Republican wet-dream of non-citizens voting.
Voter fraud is a micro-issue in this discussion. The macro-issue is Republicans invalidating minority votes through shoving laws down our collective throats which do nothing to address the problem, but result is actually fewer people being able to exercise their Constitutional right to vote. From denying access to the voting places, denying access to ballots, and gerrymandering and district remapping, which limits the effectiveness of entire communities' votes.
Your 'anomalies' are entirely too few and you're not 'protecting' the vote, unless you mean the 'white' vote.
@no1marauder saidhere, I did say save act. I was misremebering 🙂
Earl: Also, the Repubs are trying to get the SAVE act passed to protect the voting in America, much to the approval of 84% of the voters.
Say again?
under voter id:
84% of Americans support requiring photo Voter ID.
That’s not a partisan talking point, that’s overwhelming national consensus.
https://www.facebook.com/bienvenido.us/posts/84-of-americans-support-requiring-photo-voter-idthats-not-a-partisan-talking-poi/1301373508693396/
@Suzianne saidIf there ever was a time when black people were systemically kept from voting, it was at the hands of the democrats.
Why not?
They're the ones guilty of plain old voter suppression.
This has been going on since Reagan.
And, for your information, the Democrats have been painted falsely with the voter fraud label, meaning the fraud is mainly committed by those who vote. This has been shown patently false by all the lawsuits brought by Trump-thralls which have been thr ...[text shortened]... malies' are entirely too few and you're not 'protecting' the vote, unless you mean the 'white' vote.
Groups of African Americans trying to get to the polling places were so horribly interrupted
by the per usual likely suspects, white bullies, who beat these people off and chased them away.
This was happening into the 60's, and it took a special FBI task force to go into Mississippi and Alabama,
wherever, and accompany the African Americans to the polling places.
This was down south, Suzi, and was happening in my lifetime, by the KKK, Suzi, your people.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidLMAO! You're still trying to pretend that those Southern segregationists didn't overwhelmingly defect to the Republican party after the Civil Rights laws were jammed through and enforced by LBJ?
If there ever was a time when black people were systemically kept from voting, it was at the hands of the democrats.
Groups of African Americans trying to get to the polling places were so horribly interrupted
by the per usual likely suspects, white bullies, who beat these people off and chased them away.
This was happening into the 60's, and it took a special ...[text shortened]... es.
This was down south, Suzi, and was happening in my lifetime, by the KKK, Suzi, your people.
Really you surely know better by now, so you're operating in Big Lie mode.
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@Earl-of-Trumps saidHow pathetic of you.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
@no1marauder
you're lying. again. then, when did you ever stop.
It worked as you well know; Republicans fed into white resentment and are still doing so - you're a cheerleader for it here.