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    Now let's talk about what the Israelis did to infuriate HAMAS.

    https://new.thecradle.co/articles/over-1000-israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-mosque

    HAMAS is sending a powerful message. They are taking Israel's crap laying down.
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    Arabs and Jews. It never ends. Still, Israelis visited a holy site and were disrespectful, so let's drag some other people from their homes and murder them in the street? Not exactly tit for tat. I watched some all Jazeera coverage this morning to get the pro Hamas take. It wasn't convincing.
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    You can’t continue oppressing people and expect nothing in return.

    Needless to say, this is not going to end well.
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    @metal-brain said
    Now let's talk about what the Israelis did to infuriate HAMAS.

    https://new.thecradle.co/articles/over-1000-israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-mosque

    HAMAS is sending a powerful message. They are taking Israel's crap laying down.
    How many Palestinians do you think are going to die as a sacrifice to Iranian foreign policy.
    Do you think it’s a coincidence that the USA’s attempt to bring the Saudis and Israelis closer diplomatically is highly dependant on Israel’s treatment of Palestinians?
    This has nothing to do with another mosque that victorious muslim armies imposed on other peoples holy sites and everything to do with the geopolitical designs of the US, Russian and Chinese and their regional allies
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    07 Oct '23 16:51
    @shavixmir said
    You can’t continue oppressing people and expect nothing in return.

    Needless to say, this is not going to end well.
    It's not going to end at all.
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    07 Oct '23 17:43
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    Maybe when humans go extinct like we are doing to thousands of other species.
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    07 Oct '23 18:45
    @sleepyguy said
    It's not going to end at all.
    Everything ends.
    I was on about the current bout of aggression.

    However, hates breeds hate, so the larger picture here will go on for quite a while, I agree.
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    08 Oct '23 07:05
    @sleepyguy said
    @Metal-Brain
    Arabs and Jews. It never ends. Still, Israelis visited a holy site and were disrespectful, so let's drag some other people from their homes and murder them in the street? Not exactly tit for tat. I watched some all Jazeera coverage this morning to get the pro Hamas take. It wasn't convincing.
    Why did the Israeli settlers do such a hole things at that Mosque? Did they have a reason? And why did they do it on a Jewish religious holiday? Were they so happy celebrating that they just had to kick the crap out of people going to worship?

    What is their excuse?
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    @metal-brain said
    Why did the Israeli settlers do such a hole things at that Mosque? Did they have a reason? And why did they do it on a Jewish religious holiday? Were they so happy celebrating that they just had to kick the crap out of people going to worship?

    What is their excuse?
    I can only guess at their reasons, though I expect simple hate has a lot to do with it, and I'm not trying to excuse them of anything.
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    I was aghast when I saw busloads of Israeli school kids marching into one of the local Palestinian towns near where we lived, across from the "peace'' forest in Jerusalem.
    Proving how great they are I suppose, but how could that action be anything but riling up the locals there? Every year they did that when we lived there.
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    @sleepyguy said
    I can only guess at their reasons, though I expect simple hate has a lot to do with it, and I'm not trying to excuse them of anything.
    From the link below:

    "Settlers have been increasing their incursions into the holy site recently, particularly in the wake of the Jewish holiday season.
    On 25 September, the second and final day of the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur, hundreds of settlers forced their way into the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound under protection from Israeli police.
    One day after Yom Kippur, settlers were seen in video footage dancing and stomping on Muslim graves at the Bab al-Rahma cemetery near Al-Aqsa Mosque."

    https://new.thecradle.co/articles/over-1000-israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-mosque

    The Israeli police helped them do it. They wanted to offend the Muslims to get them to react to it. Now they have an excuse to expand the border in a land grab. Israel has no right to defend itself. They deeply offended the Palestinians to deliberately provoke them.

    Israel has been systematically stealing Palestinian land and this war will be the excuse to do continue it by military force.
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    10 Oct '23 22:13
    @shavixmir said
    You can’t continue oppressing people and expect nothing in return.

    Needless to say, this is not going to end well.
    yeah lets go behead some babies
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    @mott-the-hoople said
    yeah lets go behead some babies
    Nobody beheaded babies. Nobody can verify those reports. That is just propaganda to demonize Hamas. Even Biden would not claim babies were beheaded. He knows it is not true.
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    @metal-brain said
    Nobody beheaded babies. Nobody can verify those reports. That is just propaganda to demonize Hamas. Even Biden would not claim babies were beheaded. He knows it is not true.
    are saying the news reports are wrong? what makes you say this?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/hamas-kills-40-babies-and-children-beheading-some-of-them-at-israeli-kibbutz-report/ar-AA1hZRr6
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    @mott-the-hoople said
    are saying the news reports are wrong? what makes you say this?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/hamas-kills-40-babies-and-children-beheading-some-of-them-at-israeli-kibbutz-report/ar-AA1hZRr6
    Because nobody will name these people. That is how you know it is a lie. Netanyahu is repeating the lie though. He is a lying POS!

    Where are the horrible photos of these decapitated babies?
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