@vivify saidThe death toll is always rising, in the US by 8000 a day on average.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-deaths-united-states-each-day-2020-n1177936More than 90,000 people have died in the U.S. of COVID-19.
A few days ago we were at 85,00 deaths. Last week we were at 70,000.
Seems like the death toll's rising.
Latest numbers show we are below expected deaths this year by 3 percent.
@Eladar
You keep ignoring the fact we have not reached anywhere near the peak of the current curve, going down in the tri state area but rising like a bitch in the rest of the country. You can ignore that all you want there are going to be many more deaths FROM C19 before it is through.
You are one pathetic low life son of a bitch with ZERO empathy, just like your god king.
@sonhouse saidPeak of current curve of what? Daily deaths?
@Eladar
You keep ignoring the fact we have not reached anywhere near the peak of the current curve, going down in the tri state area but rising like a bitch in the rest of the country. You can ignore that all you want there are going to be many more deaths FROM C19 before it is through.
You are one pathetic low life son of a bitch with ZERO empathy, just like your god king.
And are you afraid to answer my question?
@Eladar
I am not afraid of ANY FUKKING THING you talk about and the curve I am talking about is the deaths already noted in the US and one in particular showing total C19 deaths V the death count from the Tri state area which seems to have passed the peak and if you combine the two it LOOKS like the whole country is flattening out.
But if you really knew math like you say you do you would KNOW separating those two stats would show the US AS A WHOLE has a rising death list EVERY DAY with over a thousand C19 deaths a day and that could drive up to 3000 a day, the peak of THAT curve has not been reached by a long shot and so deaths elsewhere outside of the tri state area are climbing rapidly.
Of course you will poo poo that since all you are are a parrot of your god king who now says testing is not such a big deal but testing is the WHOLE deal, along with wearing masks and social distancing, those are the ONLY tools we have at the present to stop this horrible scourge till sometime next year MAYBE, we have an actual vaccine.
So does that answer your question?
@sonhouse saidThe imaginary peak the has failed to show up? Well you still have a few more days until June 1.
@Eladar
I am not afraid of ANY FUKKING THING you talk about and the curve I am talking about is the deaths already noted in the US and one in particular showing total C19 deaths V the death count from the Tri state area which seems to have passed the peak and if you combine the two it LOOKS like the whole country is flattening out.
But if you really knew math like you say ...[text shortened]... courge till sometime next year MAYBE, we have an actual vaccine.
So does that answer your question?
You can hope for it if you like, but I will trust the decreasing numbers I have been seeing for 3 weeks now.
@Eladar
Your numbers are BS. There are two curves to consider. One is the tri state one, which seems to have peaked and is falling but the other is the REST of the country.
And of COURSE I fully expect you to poo poo this link:
https://apnews.com/4450a59eb5276bc5cecc61613e797018
But then again, you CHOOSE to be blind.
@sonhouse saidWill you answer my question before changing the subject, then I will deal with your subject.
@Eladar
Your numbers are BS. There are two curves to consider. One is the tri state one, which seems to have peaked and is falling but the other is the REST of the country.
And of COURSE I fully expect you to poo poo this link:
https://apnews.com/4450a59eb5276bc5cecc61613e797018
But then again, you CHOOSE to be blind.
@eladar saidIt does seem to depend on target population and perhaps on strains of the virus and also perhaps on the applicable healthcare system.
Is there a consistent proportion of number of people infected with Covid to the number of deaths?
I am seeing many stories about infection rates rising, but I am not seeing stories about deaths rising.
I've read probably a couple of hundred articles and read thousands of Tweets and heard hundreds of interviews on the subject, but you're going to have to forgive me for not citing sources here. I can give you my own impressions.
The lowest IFR (infection fatality rate) that seems realistic is about 0.3%; maybe possibly as low as 0.2%. This is what many of the western US (CA and AZ) seroprevalence tests imply.
The highest IFR that seems realistic is about 1.25%. This is what the Spain seroprevalence study implies.
It does seem that the European strain (and NY, which was hit from Europe) seems higher than the Asian strain, which mostly seeded the US west coast.
If I had to guess, I'd pin the IFR at 0.6-0.9%.
It should also be noted that close to half the COVID deaths occur in nursing homes, which comprise much less than 1% of the population.
So, if you just look at the non-nursing home population, you can slice the IFR roughly in half.
@sonhouse saidBoth are clearly falling; the NY curve falling much faster.
@Eladar
Your numbers are BS. There are two curves to consider. One is the tri state one, which seems to have peaked and is falling but the other is the REST of the country.
And of COURSE I fully expect you to poo poo this link:
https://apnews.com/4450a59eb5276bc5cecc61613e797018
But then again, you CHOOSE to be blind.
@sh76 saidThe death rates are not broken up by age group.
It does seem to depend on target population and perhaps on strains of the virus and also perhaps on the applicable healthcare system.
I've read probably a couple of hundred articles and read thousands of Tweets and heard hundreds of interviews on the subject, but you're going to have to forgive me for not citing sources here. I can give you my own impressions.
The lowest I ...[text shortened]... .
So, if you just look at the non-nursing home population, you can slice the IFR roughly in half.
What is the death rate for groups..
10 to 19
20 to 29
30 to 39
40 to 49
Assuming of course good health.
I ask because if I am right, the 40 and under crowd are the ones we want infected so shutting down schools was counter productive.
@Eladar
It is for sure you are not the C19 czar. If you were you would immediately open up all schools and universities, let the kids in uni go back to their dorms and then watch the C19 #'s go way up followed by deaths.
The under 40 crowd may have smaller death numbers but it is not zero and there WILL be more deaths in that age group if your so-called plan were to be universal in the US. That is to say nothing about the mysterious inflammation symptoms going on in the very young, a small percentage but terrible sickness for those but of course no bid deal for you, I guess you would say, they are genetically weak and needed to be weeded out anyway.
@sonhouse saidIf the college kids and elementary kids went back to school, who would die?
@Eladar
It is for sure you are not the C19 czar. If you were you would immediately open up all schools and universities, let the kids in uni go back to their dorms and then watch the C19 #'s go way up followed by deaths.
The under 40 crowd may have smaller death numbers but it is not zero and there WILL be more deaths in that age group if your so-called plan were to be uni ...[text shortened]... d deal for you, I guess you would say, they are genetically weak and needed to be weeded out anyway.
Deaths are going up daily, most so in the Northeast as always.