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@eladar said
The death rates are not broken up by age group.

What is the death rate for groups..
10 to 19
20 to 29
30 to 39
40 to 49

Assuming of course good health.

I ask because if I am right, the 40 and under crowd are the ones we want infected so shutting down schools was counter productive.
Under 40 and no comorbidities, you're probably looking at something like 0.03%


@sh76 said
Under 40 and no comorbidities, you're probably looking at something like 0.03%
How about 6 to 24?

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Another concept seems to be slipping around never being dealt with.

Conservatives say hey deaths are going down.

Libs say hey cases are going up.

So which is more important? People getting sick or people dying.

What libs seem to believe is that if you get sick, you die. The hysteria makes it impossible to discuss things with such loons.


@eladar said
The death rates are not broken up by age group.

What is the death rate for groups..
10 to 19
20 to 29
30 to 39
40 to 49

Assuming of course good health.

I ask because if I am right, the 40 and under crowd are the ones we want infected so shutting down schools was counter productive.
From the Lancet [1], NNH is number needed to harm, being to number of people who need to be infected for a death.

Age RangeIFRNNH
0-90.00161%62112
10-190.00695%14388
20-290.03090%3236
30-390.08440%1185
40-490.16100%621
50-590.59500%168
60-691.93000%52
70-794.28000%23
> 807.80000%13

These are estimates based on data from China. There may be more refined estimates in the meantime.

[1] https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1473-3099%2820%2930243-7

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@DeepThought

So in other words very small and those are of all so if the kids who have health issues stay home, it will be even smaller.

In other words typical for viruses and it is part of life. Chances of dying in an accident I am sure are higher.

As summer gets closer immune systems get stronger which explains why deaths are decreasing, at least outside of nursing homes.



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I did not say they are authoritative. I just said stories.

Not sure what your issue is.


@eladar said
I did not say they are authoritative. I just said stories.

Not sure what your issue is.
Just stories then.
Ok. Got it. 😴

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@eladar said
How about 6 to 24?
Lower than their odds of being killed in a car accident in a given year.

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@sh76

Then I would argue that shutting down schools was counter productive in the fight against covid, as well as robbing these kids by providing them with inferior education.

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@eladar said
@sh76

Then I would argue that shutting down schools was counter productive in the fight against covid, as well as robbing these kids by providing them with inferior education.
Really, this is the point of this thread. It is not the number of people catching covid19, it is who is watching it.

We should be concerned with high death rates and even death rates are dropping.

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@eladar said
The death rates are not broken up by age group.

What is the death rate for groups..
10 to 19
20 to 29
30 to 39
40 to 49

Assuming of course good health.

I ask because if I am right, the 40 and under crowd are the ones we want infected so shutting down schools was counter productive.
Why would we want anybody infected with a highly contagious lethal disease?

Even if the chances of death for a particular group are low, they can easily spread COVID to more vulnerable groups. And it's a serious illness with possible long term side effects as well. No sane parent would be blase about their child getting it.

This article discusses some possible long term effects while conceding because the virus is so new there's no certainty regarding permanent damage: https://www.vox.com/2020/5/8/21251899/coronavirus-long-term-effects-symptoms

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@no1marauder said
Why would we want anybody infected with a highly contagious lethal disease?

Even if the chances of death for a particular group are low, they can easily spread COVID to more vulnerable groups. And it's a serious illness with possible long term side effects as well. No sane parent would be blase about their child getting it.
Why? So that the infections will end. Herd immunity the natural way.

There was no need to force businesses to close.

You have the nerve to claim protecting vulnerable groups, while supporting covid introduced intentionally to nursing homes?

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@eladar said
Why? So that the infections will end. Herd immunity the natural way.

There was no need to force businesses to close.

You have the nerve to claim protecting vulnerable groups, while supporting covid introduced intentionally to nursing homes?
Stop with the idiotic "herd immunity" argument.

I'm tired of shooting it down in every moronic thread you start.