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How much should people be able to inherit? Would it be reasonable for one person to inherit everything in the country? How about for 99 people to each inherit 1% of all wealth in the nation?

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Ideally, it should be taxed at 100%. Pragmatically, it should be taxed at the highest rate possible without causing massive tax evasion. Inheritance is a great enemy of social mobility and social justice.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Ideally, it should be taxed at 100%. Pragmatically, it should be taxed at the highest rate possible without causing massive tax evasion. Inheritance is a great enemy of social mobility and social justice.
Who gives you the authority to determine how much should be taxed? and is that morally justified?

Inheritance is a great enemy of social mobility and social justice.

That may well be true, but the idea that you should be allowed only a small percentage (if any) of your inheritance because others are not as affluent as you doesn't strike me as being fair at all, especially considering other people who may benefit from all the taxation involved are not entitled to the inheritance.

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In the U.S. people can already inherit vast sums tax free. The limit is $12000 per year per person. So, if I give my son, and his wife each $12000, every year for say, the next 30 years before my death, I can give them 12k*2*30 = 720,000. Or put another way, I can easily transfer my entire estate to them pretty easily.

Quite frankly, any inheritance over that amount, really ought to be taxed at pretty unreasonable rates.

I don't really understand why there has to be such a loophole though.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Who gives you the authority to determine how much should be taxed? and is that morally justified?

[b]Inheritance is a great enemy of social mobility and social justice.


That may well be true, but the idea that you should be allowed only a small percentage (if any) of your inheritance because others are not as affluent as you doesn't strike me ...[text shortened]... ther people who may benefit from all the taxation involved are not entitled to the inheritance.[/b]
Who gives you the authority to determine how much should be taxed? and is that morally justified?

I don't have the authority since I'm not the dictator of my own country. I think it's not morally justified to just let people reap the benefits of other people's work for no reason.

That may well be true, but the idea that you should be allowed only a small percentage (if any) of your inheritance because others are not as affluent as you doesn't strike me as being fair at all, especially considering other people who may benefit from all the taxation involved are not entitled to the inheritance.

What do you mean? If it's the law, they are entitled to it. If it's not, then they aren't. What's not "fair" about it? The rules apply to everyone equally. Being denied opportunities because your parents are poor - that's not fair.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra

Being denied opportunities because your parents are poor - that's not fair.
Being denied opportunities because your parents are crack-heads and don't provide you with a loving and encouraging environment isn't fair either.

Successful parents are both better role models and have a better tendency to pass down wealth to kids. Good for them. Why punish them?

Why do we want to put policies into effect that discourage success and reward failure?

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Originally posted by joneschr
Being denied opportunities because your parents are crack-heads and don't provide you with a loving and encouraging environment isn't fair either.

Successful parents are both better role models and have a better tendency to pass down wealth to kids. Good for them. Why punish them?

Why do we want to put policies into effect that discourage success and reward failure?
Inheritance rewards people for their parents' success, not their own.

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You don't think it's rewarding to give your child opportunities?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Inheritance rewards people for their parents' success, not their own.
ok, so if you were to choose who would get your inheritance after you died, which one would you prefer?

a- strangers
or
b- your family

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Both.

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As Warren Buffett famously said, "You should leave your children enough money so that they can do anything, but not so much that they can do nothing."

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
[b]Who gives you the authority to determine how much should be taxed? and is that morally justified?

I don't have the authority since I'm not the dictator of my own country. I think it's not morally justified to just let people reap the benefits of other people's work for no reason.

That may well be true, but the idea that you should be all ...[text shortened]... equally. Being denied opportunities because your parents are poor - that's not fair.
I think it's not morally justified to just let people reap the benefits of other people's work for no reason.

it seems like you're contradicting your first post- where you claimed inheritance should be taxed 100%.

If it's the law, they are entitled to it. If it's not, then they aren't. What's not "fair" about it? The rules apply to everyone equally. Being denied opportunities because your parents are poor - that's not fair.

Indeed. What isn't fair about it is that it should be all taken away for the sake of "social justice". I see, so you're saying the government should act as some sort of robin hood because some people have parents who failed to provide their kids with wealth?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Both.

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As Warren Buffett famously said, "You should leave your children enough money so that they can do anything, but not so much that they can do nothing."
Doesn't it depend on how much of it is taken away by taxation?

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Originally posted by joneschr
Being denied opportunities because your parents are crack-heads and don't provide you with a loving and encouraging environment isn't fair either.

Successful parents are both better role models and have a better tendency to pass down wealth to kids. Good for them. Why punish them?

Why do we want to put policies into effect that discourage success and reward failure?
Well, if you can buy your degree then you are rewarding failure. If you reward the incompetent trustfund baby while the next Einstein is cleaning the streets you are rewarding failure and punishing talent. Children of rich parents will always have an advantage, but why make that advantage bigger than necessary?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
ok, so if you were to choose who would get your inheritance after you died, which one would you prefer?

a- strangers
or
b- your family
c - don't give a damn since I'm dead

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Ideally, it should be taxed at 100%. Pragmatically, it should be taxed at the highest rate possible without causing massive tax evasion. Inheritance is a great enemy of social mobility and social justice.
You cannot -- and should not -- stop parents passing on a multitude of things to their offspring most of which are worth far more than money -- teaching, advice, philosophy, conversation, LOVE.

And yet you pick out wealth and say that children have not earned it. As far as I know, very few children earn the love their parents shower on them -- and yet the parents are still willing to provide it.

By what rationale do you want to interfere only with wealth?

Following the rationale of what children earn, it would be much more "fair" to remove children from their natural parents at birth and randomly assign them to new parents. It would doubtlessly increase social mobility, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be a horrible idea. Yet the justification is identical to a 100% tax on inheritance.