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We're funding a secret police state. That will be the historical legacy of 2025. $187 billion and counting.

ICE had more resources than many entire nations spend on national security. They're paying entry level workers twice as much as school teachers and nurses with a decade of experience.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/09/ice-immigration-police-trump-budget-bill


@wildgrass said
We're funding a secret police state. That will be the historical legacy of 2025. $187 billion and counting.

ICE had more resources than many entire nations spend on national security. They're paying entry level workers twice as much as school teachers and nurses with a decade of experience.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/09/ice-immigration-police-trump-budget-bill
ICE is Trump's private militia. If Trump is not removed from office, it won't be long before political dissident start 'disappearing.' Mark my words.

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@moonbus said
ICE is Trump's private militia. If Trump is not removed from office, it won't be long before political dissident start 'disappearing.' Mark my words.
Most of it is bluster but the funding situation bothers me the most. I can't believe you can get a $50,000 signing bonus and make $100k a year picking old immigrants off the street while my kids teacher's make less than half that.

My new years resolution is to stop reading the news so much.


@wildgrass said
We're funding a secret police state. That will be the historical legacy of 2025. $187 billion and counting.
There's nothing secret about ICE, they are operating in plain view.
Why does the left subvert the use of language like that?

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@Cliff-Mashburn said
There's nothing secret about ICE, they are operating in plain view.
Why does the left subvert the use of language like that?
Wearing masks. So they cannot be later identified. They send detained people in untracked flights to undisclosed detention centers to which Congress has applied for entry and been denied. I call that secret.


@moonbus said
Wearing masks. So they cannot be later identified. They send detained people in untracked flights to undisclosed detention centers to which Congress has applied for entry and been denied. I call that secret.
You're talking about that one congresswoman that tried to storm the gate for a photo op and demanded entry. She didn't apply for nuthin'.
The facilities can be inspected any time if they go through channels and ask ahead of time.
As far as the masks, they've been worn by SWAT/Tactical Law Enforcement units for 50 years, have you been complaining about them all this time?


@Cliff-Mashburn said
There's nothing secret about ICE, they are operating in plain view.
Why does the left subvert the use of language like that?
They wear masks and do not identify themselves and, as such, have no accountability for their actions that violate freedoms of citizens.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
You're talking about that one congresswoman that tried to storm the gate for a photo op and demanded entry. She didn't apply for nuthin'.
The facilities can be inspected any time if they go through channels and ask ahead of time.
As far as the masks, they've been worn by SWAT/Tactical Law Enforcement units for 50 years, have you been complaining about them all this time?
SWAT do not wear masks for the purpose of hiding their identity.


@wildgrass said
SWAT do not wear masks for the purpose of hiding their identity.
That's exactly why they started wearing them when they went into gang neighborhoods. Stop lying.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
That's exactly why they started wearing them when they went into gang neighborhoods. Stop lying.
SWAT isn't secret police. ICE is. There's no comparison.

ICE are unaccountable for their actions.

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@Cliff-Mashburn said
There's nothing secret about ICE, they are operating in plain view.
Why does the left subvert the use of language like that?
Masks, no id. Secret police.

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@Cliff-Mashburn said
You're talking about that one congresswoman that tried to storm the gate for a photo op and demanded entry. She didn't apply for nuthin'.
The facilities can be inspected any time if they go through channels and ask ahead of time.
As far as the masks, they've been worn by SWAT/Tactical Law Enforcement units for 50 years, have you been complaining about them all this time?
SWAT is State, not Federal, and they require a warrant.

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@wildgrass said
Most of it is bluster but the funding situation bothers me the most. I can't believe you can get a $50,000 signing bonus and make $100k a year picking old immigrants off the street while my kids teacher's make less than half that.

My new years resolution is to stop reading the news so much.
ICE lives at risk
TEACHERS no life risk. Mechanics who work on silos 90 feet up at the paper mill……they get paid higher wages than the pulp workers down below, Geez.
I guess you need to organize the pulp workers. I’d say for them to find higher paying jobs, or follow you with signs!,,,,WE’RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY MORE! (take what🤔)

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@wildgrass said
They wear masks and do not identify themselves and, as such, have no accountability for their actions that violate freedoms of citizens.
I am totally missing this argument. If people gang bangers can walk down the street wearing mask and those damn hoodies, why cannot the police do the same. Why take exception to the police. I do not understand why you will not make that clear.


@AverageJoe1 said
ICE lives at risk
TEACHERS no life risk. Mechanics who work on silos 90 feet up at the paper mill……they get paid higher wages than the pulp workers down below, Geez.
I guess you need to organize the pulp workers. I’d say for them to find higher paying jobs, or follow you with signs!,,,,WE’RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY MORE! (take what🤔)
Huh? More teachers are killed by live fire while working than ICE agents.