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Iran is a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Does this mean they should not create nuclear weapons? How about the North Koreans? They signed the treat but publicly withdrew. Are they justified in making these weapons?

Please keep your focus on the NNPT and how it affects whether these nations should develop such weapons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty#Iran

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Iran is a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Does this mean they should not create nuclear weapons? How about the North Koreans? They signed the treat but publicly withdrew. Are they justified in making these weapons?

Please keep your focus on the NNPT and how it affects whether these nations should develop such weapons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty#Iran
The NNPT gives all signatory states the right to pursue the use of nuclear energy. That's what Iran states it's doing and what the evidence shows it to be doing.
We might not agree with their politics, and they like to bag the crap out of some - Israel and the US come to mind - but this doesn't mean they're breaking the treaty.

As for North Korea, they can do whatever they like, so yes, they're justified in making nuclear weapons. BUT, we should be concerned about their disregard for the welfare of theor own citizens. And certainly their right to make weapons does not occur at the expense of our right to retaliate if provoked.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Iran is a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Does this mean they should not create nuclear weapons? How about the North Koreans? They signed the treat but publicly withdrew. Are they justified in making these weapons?

Please keep your focus on the NNPT and how it affects whether these nations should develop such weapons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty#Iran
The US keeps producing nuclear weapons. In fact, they're busy building bunker-buster nukes now.
Im sure that's not in the NNPFT.

As for Iran...well...they don't have any. They don't want any and the UN nuclear watchdog hasn't found any...

North Korea? Hard to estimate. I presume they have just enough nukes to obliterate South Korea and Japan.
The obvious question is: Can you blame them?

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Originally posted by amannion
The NNPT gives all signatory states the right to pursue the use of nuclear energy. That's what Iran states it's doing and what the evidence shows it to be doing.
We might not agree with their politics, and they like to bag the crap out of some - Israel and the US come to mind - but this doesn't mean they're breaking the treaty.

As for North Korea, they ...[text shortened]... right to make weapons does not occur at the expense of our right to retaliate if provoked.
I didn't say that Iran has nuclear weapons or were breaking the treaty. I asked if they were justified in making them with respect to the treaty.

Shav, the US is permitted to have such weapons according to the treaty from what I understand.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Shav, the US is permitted to have such weapons according to the treaty from what I understand.
You would pretty much understand wrong.

NNPT says (roughly) that no new country can gain nuclear weapon capabilities, and countries with existing nuclear capabilities get rid of their weapons.

I haven't seen any Nuclear country take any steps to remove their weapons, so it seems they just want to have their cake and eat it. It they can't uphold their side of the bargain, why should anybody?

BTW: India, Israel and Pakistan are all signatories as well, but for some reason, nobody said boo to them when they went nuclear.

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