The other day, soldiers stopped a truck that was carrying Irani weapons to the iraqi underground insurgency. I have long speculated that Iran may of been supporting the insurgency, but this may be a piece of evidence that proves it. Who here believes the insurgency may be backed by Iran. Keep in mind, the insurgents have stepped up there attacks in effectiveness.
Originally posted by iamrootI thought you were on about a metro system!
The other day, soldiers stopped a truck that was carrying Irani weapons to the iraqi underground insurgency. I have long speculated that Iran may of been supporting the insurgency, but this may be a piece of evidence that proves it. Who here believes the insurgency may be backed by Iran. Keep in mind, the insurgents have stepped up there attacks in effectiveness.
I was seriously thinking...a subway in Baghdad...that's a bit optimistic, isn't it?
Originally posted by iamroot😴
The other day, soldiers stopped a truck that was carrying Irani weapons to the iraqi underground insurgency. I have long speculated that Iran may of been supporting the insurgency, but this may be a piece of evidence that proves it. Who here believes the insurgency may be backed by Iran. Keep in mind, the insurgents have stepped up there attacks in effectiveness.
And let me guess, you find this reason to declare war and kill even more innocents simply because a country is helping another country earn freedom from invasion of a brutal force...
Originally posted by iamrootThe Iranian government is supporting the Shiite faction in Iraq, also by supplying them with weapons. They themselves are shiites too. The situation in Iraq is a wonderful opportunity for them to realise their political dream and that is to become the regional super power, of course in due time in possession of nuclear arms, they think .....
The other day, soldiers stopped a truck that was carrying Irani weapons to the iraqi underground insurgency. I have long speculated that Iran may of been supporting the insurgency, but this may be a piece of evidence that proves it. Who h ...[text shortened]... nd, the insurgents have stepped up there attacks in effectiveness.
Now that the Iraqi aspirations of becoming THE regional power are shattered, and a serious rival is eliminated on the road to the Iranian goal, the Iranians think it is a good idea to redouble their efforts.
Originally posted by DeadBeSwallowedAmerica has already invaded Iraq and won. There is no changing this now. So any opposition from Iran would not be to protect the insurgency, but just to simply kill americans, or even worst, to create unrest.
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And let me guess, you find this reason to declare war and kill even more innocents simply because a country is helping another country earn freedom from invasion of a brutal force...
And, on the same note: I was part of the initial invasion force into Iraq, and having been stationed at Camp Liberty, Iraq for 12 months, I can tell you that there may of been a small insurgency, but most of the citizens there we not unhappy to see coaliton troops.
Originally posted by iamrootI guess the rebels during the war of independance fought pointlessly, just increased unrest and terrorism, just wanted to kill Brits for no reason, as Britain was already in their country, fully invaded and all.
America has already invaded Iraq and won. There is no changing this now. So any opposition from Iran would not be to protect the insurgency, but just to simply kill americans, or even worst, to create unrest.
And, on the same note: ...[text shortened]... most of the citizens there we not unhappy to see coaliton troops.
Good fer the Iranians! When the Soviets invaded and occupied Afghanistan, the US government sent weapons to the Afghan rebels. The Iranians would have even greater justification to send arms to the Iraqi insurgency; after all, Iraq is right next store to Iran and US troops there are far more of a threat to Iran than Soviet troops in Afghanistan were to the US.
And that "small" insurgency gets rolling on, don't it? Over 1900 US dead and rising every day. Last week was the fourth worst for US troops killed in combat since the start of the war and the military says attacks against US troops have doubled in frequency since the start of the year. Time to bring the boys and girls home; if the Iranians benefit because of the US government's stupid policies, I say: "GOOD FER THE IRANIANS"!
Originally posted by no1marauderhttp://piv.pivpiv.dk/
Good fer the Iranians! When the Soviets invaded and occupied Afghanistan, the US government sent weapons to the Afghan rebels. The Iranians would have even greater justification to send arms to the Iraqi insurgency; after all, Iraq is right next store to Iran and US troops there are far more of a threat to Iran than Soviet troops in Afghanistan ...[text shortened]... nians benefit because of the US government's stupid policies, I say: "GOOD FER THE IRANIANS"!
Originally posted by DeadBeSwallowedno, your logic incorrect. WIth the analogy of relating this to the american revolution, the iranians should be considered the french, who, by the way, got into the war for their own personal gain.
I guess the rebels during the war of independance fought pointlessly, just increased unrest and terrorism, just wanted to kill Brits for no reason, as Britain was already in their country, fully invaded and all.
Originally posted by iamrootOf course Iran is in this for themselves aswell, do you think Iran wants a USA outpost right next door to their country? Especially when Bush made it clear they are the next victims on the "war on terror". The Iranians are defending themselves and helping the Iraqis win freedom too, two birds with one stone, not only that, through democratic means, the Iranians managed to get a pro-Iranian president voted by the people of Iraq, Iran is playing a smart game and the Iraqis support them...
no, your logic incorrect. WIth the analogy of relating this to the american revolution, the iranians should be considered the french, who, by the way, got into the war for their own personal gain.
Well tell me this. Do you think that Iraq would be happier in the way they are going now, or happier underneath Saddam? Keep in mind that America will be leaving Iraq to fend for themselves in the future. I can tell you, of the people I talked to in Iraq most people were very happy when coalition troops ousted Saddam. But on the otherhand, who would dare spit and yell at an American that is carrying an M16.
One other thing to think about: Saddam ruled his regime with the fear. He controlled people by making them fear what he would do to them if they resisted. After all the terrorists popped up in Iraq, not just against the troops, but against each other as well(shiites vs. the sunni, etc), I am starting to think that maybe Saddam didn't rule that way because he wanted to, but because he had too. Sometimes fear is the only thing that will keep peace. Maybe, he was a hard ruler because if he wasn't, the people in Iraq would kill one another. When your ruler is starving you and your family out, you do as he says.
I think they should do a poll, only for Iraqis, asking whether they feel safer under coalition protection, or under Saddam's regime. The poll should be completely anonymous. Also, we should ask them if they think that the country may prosper more, now that Saddam is gone.
hmmm no response on asking the Iraqis what they think? It seems like the only solution to the problem, since europeans think that no one but them have the right to an opinion, and americans think that everyone has a right to an opinion, as long as you keep it to yourself.
Originally posted by iamrootIn theory, I absolutely favor asking the Iraqis what they think. In practice however I don't think they would give honest answers and I suspect the pollers may not report the responses honestly either.
hmmm no response on asking the Iraqis what they think? It seems like the only solution to the problem, since europeans think that no one but them have the right to an opinion, and americans think that everyone has a right to an opinion, as long as you keep it to yourself.
It's a tough call.
Originally posted by iamrootYou're the first person I've encountered with first-hand experience of Iraq. Where is Camp Liberty? What was your function? How did the citizens express their happiness at your presence?
And, on the same note: I was part of the initial invasion force into Iraq, and having been stationed at Camp Liberty, Iraq for 12 months, I can tell you that there may of been a small insurgency, but most of the citizens there we not unhappy to see coaliton troops.
Does the ongoing mayhem in Iraq not detract from your statement that your side won?
Camp Liberty is basically the worlds biggest trailer park :-P We lived in trailers that stretched about as far as you could see, with concrete dividers to protect the trailers from mortar.
Contrary to what people in this thread think of me, i serve as a counterintelligence agent. But, there you spend about 15% of your time on duty, and 85% of your time playing xbox.
How did the people react? When we first came in, they acted...desperately overjoyed. There was also alot of rioting too... I guess people were enjoying there newfound freedom. I did not have much interaction with the people at first, i was "in the rear with the gear", as you would hear in full metal jacket. after about a month there, all they wanted to do was sell you something.