01 Oct 08
Is it just me or is it a little funny that the Democrats are the party that is voting to pass the bail out package of Wall Street and the Republicans are the ones opposing it? In addition, it is "W" who is pushing the plan but it is his party that is shoving it back in his face. No matter your position on the bail out plan, the whole affair seems pretty ironic.
01 Oct 08
Originally posted by whodeyI wonder now that "W" seems to have more sway with the bail out plan with the Democrats, should he now change parties? I say he fits in pretty well as a Democrat. After all, when it comes to spending money and increasing government "W" puts many Democrats to shame.
Is it just me or is it a little funny that the Democrats are the party that is voting to pass the bail out package of Wall Street and the Republicans are the ones opposing it? In addition, it is "W" who is pushing the plan but it is his party that is shoving it back in his face. No matter your position on the bail out plan, the whole affair seems pretty ironic.
01 Oct 08
Originally posted by Dace AceWhat do you mean, the majority of Dems have already voted for the bill. It is only the Republican that stand in the way.
I know a lot of you are "W" bashers, but he is a clever fox. He could be siding with the Dem.'s only to kill the bill. The crazy lib's seeing "W" promoting the bill must be thinking there is something wrong with it, and must vote against anything "W" is for.
02 Oct 08
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I think what happened is the Dems were told they were passing legislation spending $700 billion dollars of tax payer money and from then on found it difficult to vote against it because spending tax payer money is what they do best. As for Bush, he is a Dems dream president. Don't get me wrong, they enjoy spending his budgets and voting for them but would be ashamed to go as far as he does in proposing them.
02 Oct 08
Originally posted by Dace AceIndeed. They 40% of Dems probably could not stand the thought of voting for legislation proposed by "W".
On Monday, 40% of the Dem's voted "Na"
Here are the numbers. Dems who voted for it were 140 and those who voted against it were 95. Republicans that voted for it were 65 and those who voted against were 133.
02 Oct 08
Originally posted by kmax87So you are saying that more Republicans were up for re-election than their Democrat counterparts?
The Senate by an overwhelming majority just passed it which suggests that the nay sayers in the house was more to do about their re-election than what is good for the economy
02 Oct 08
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Originally posted by whodeyI'm not saying anything because I dont know those stats, but given that many republicans were against it on principle(libertarian no doubt-debt should not be nationalized...), many democrats also voted against it because of the lack of oversight/new regulation included in the bill. But it seems the very same people who rang their congress person to complain about 700 billion of their money being used to bail out fat cats, the 777 point fall on wall street has also seen a new type of call reach Washington as people realise their 401K plan might only be worth 201K if nothing is done quickly.
So you are saying that more Republicans were up for re-election than their Democrat counterparts?
As much as both sides are using this issue to score political points, I think the truth is no-one in congress wants to be associated with a bill that is not guaranteed to work, and whether its pure long term political survival, or simply a case of patriotic jitters at the thought that this action might not fix anything and actually spawn a monster, is making both sides of the house equally nervous to appear overly supportive of this Bill. I think the politicians get it, but if their electorate does not, they will not willingly go against their home base's wishes, regardless if they are up for election or not.
03 Oct 08
Originally posted by whodeyAssuming the bill was a wonderful thing (and that is very debateable), the idea that Democrats would vote against it purely because Bush proposed it is ... well, ludicrous.
Indeed. They 40% of Dems probably could not stand the thought of voting for legislation proposed by "W".